Kurichina, I don't know how many times I've read "It's only a start" or "more will follow" in my life, only to learn that in fact the intent was just to give the impression of more to follow, only to claw back what little gains were made at the beginning.

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Originally posted by kurichina:
Rejecting it doesn't reject neo-liberalism.

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I mostly just think that people are treating this "constitution" as more than it really is: a consolidation of existing treaties with a few added elements. It probably shouldn't even be called a constitution at all.

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Generally, signing a treaty commits the signer to conforming to the principles set out in the Treaty, and generally, those principles take precedence over national laws.

So, signing a Treaty is a lot like creating a Constitution.

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Originally posted by jeff house:
if Europe does not consolidate, which world power wins by insuring no competition?

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I assume you're referring to the US?

My question to you Jeff is that do you agree that the EU has served to push continental Europe in a neoliberal direction/toward the Anglo-American model of capitalism? As I said above Maastricht has basically enshrined monetarism in the EU. And even if you think it does, does it matter to you?

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Originally posted by jeff house:
Generally, signing a treaty commits the signer to conforming to the principles set out in the Treaty, and generally, those principles take precedence over national laws.

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