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500_Apples
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posted 25 June 2007 09:11 AM      Profile for 500_Apples   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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If the far-left academics driving this boycott actually cared about Palestinians they would call on every British university to accept 20 Palestinian students on full scholarships to help them with what they need most — building the skills to run a modern state and economy. And they would call on every British university to dispatch visiting professors to every Palestinian university to help upgrade their academic offerings. And they would challenge every Israeli university that already offers Ph.D.’s to Israeli Arabs to do even more. And they would challenge every Arab university the same way.

That’s what people who actually care about Palestinians would do. But just singling out Israeli universities for a boycott, in the face of all the other madness in the Middle East — that’s what anti-Semites would do.


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josh
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posted 25 June 2007 09:27 AM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And faulty reasoning is what Thomas Friedman does best.
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N.Beltov
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posted 25 June 2007 09:29 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A boycott won't be effective by itself but that's hardly a good critique of it. A boycott is a good start.

The purpose of boycotts, in general, is to put pressure on a regime like the Israeli one where all other methods of persuasion have failed. Training Palestinians to run their own prisons and Bantustans, which is all that Israel is giving them, won't put any pressure at all on Israel to end its current ethnic cleansing and the practices that have created those Bantustans to begin with.

The boycott is also a response to a request from 1,700 Palestinian civil society organizations. Those who are inclined to support the concerns of Palestinians are wise to listen to the Palestinians first rather than to others who compare participants in a boycott to anti-semites while ignoring the expressed wishes of hundreds and hundreds of Palestinian organizations.


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Max Bialystock
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posted 25 June 2007 09:55 AM      Profile for Max Bialystock     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
500 Apples, I hope you don't actually AGREE with Friedman says. Anyone who supports an Israel boycott is an anti-Semite? Please!
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500_Apples
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posted 25 June 2007 10:04 AM      Profile for 500_Apples   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank you for asking. Just bcause I post an article does not mean I agree with every sentence.

What do I think?

Anti-semitic? No. Misguided? Yes.

I think his point on scholarships is also very valid. They`d do a lot more by helping palestinians than by hurting israel. Hence that`s the section I chose to quote. Does anyone have a new york times subscription that they could read the whole thing? He started his article by talking of all the palestinians and israeli arabs who study in israeli universities, and why boycotting israeli universities also means boycotting palestinian learning.

I`m also biased as an academic in training. I can understanding (hypothetically) boycotting agricultural produce for example, as that`s an export of disputed water. But boycotting thinkers and researchers? ridiculous.


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Petsy
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posted 25 June 2007 10:57 AM      Profile for Petsy        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I spent a year studying at the University of Haifa. Did you know that almost 25% of the students there are Israeli Arabs? Did you know that there were reciprocal academic agreemnts with Palestinian Universities and Haifa? What a stupid and misguided boycott this one is...stupid, stupid, stupid!!
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posted 25 June 2007 12:20 PM      Profile for Petsy        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Concordia President speaks out

Concordia statement


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Petsy
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posted 25 June 2007 12:22 PM      Profile for Petsy        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
McGill Principal speaks out:

McGill statement


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Petsy
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posted 25 June 2007 12:30 PM      Profile for Petsy        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
University of British Columbia Statement

UBC position


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Petsy
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posted 25 June 2007 12:32 PM      Profile for Petsy        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
York University statement

York U position


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ohara
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posted 25 June 2007 01:46 PM      Profile for ohara        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I had also read that the Presdient of the University of Montreal has also added his condemnation of the boycott but I cant find it on their site. And as well Lee Bollinger from Columbia?
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Petsy
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posted 28 June 2007 06:34 AM      Profile for Petsy        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Statement fro the President of the University of Manitoba

U of Manitoba statement


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Petsy
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posted 28 June 2007 06:36 AM      Profile for Petsy        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Interesting and a good sign that all these Canadian University's understand the folly here

Ohara here is the University of Montreal statement from its President:

[ 28 June 2007: Message edited by: Petsy ]U of Montreal statement

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