Council (First eight)

3746 Raymond Louie

3704 Heather Deal

3271 Tim Stevenson

3248 George Chow

2988 Andrea Reimer

2951 Geoff Meggs

2387 Kerry Jang

2240 Kashmir Dhaliwal

2223 David Eby

2034 Heather Harrison

1717 Catherine Evans

1217 Rey Umlas

1127 Ray Lam

1094 Demitri Douzenis

1031 Vaune Adams Kobler

724 Doug Bencze

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SCHOOL BOARD (First four)

2969 Sharon Gregson

2177 Mike Lombardi

2053 Patti Bacchus

1962 Ken Clement

1954 Stepan Vdovine

1881 Narinder Chhina

1846 Helesia Luke

1574 Anastasia Mirras

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PARK BOARD (First four)

2602 Sarah Blyth

2242 Constance Barnes

1999 Aaron Jasper

1963 Raj Hundal

1738 Ian Waddell

1453 Tony Kosovic

1261 James Gill

983 Rob Wynen

834 Hadani Ditmars

788 Kevin Neilsen

389 Thomas Lockhart

368 Steve Tannock

I'm disappointed David Eby didn't win a council spot.

[ 21 September 2008: Message edited by: Treetop ]

"Vote for us, we'll COPE!"
"We can just barely COPE! Vote for us!"
"Oh, we can COPE with things all right, but don't expect much more!"

He lost by 8 votes. It's my understanding there will be a recount.

[ 21 September 2008: Message edited by: Treetop ]

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Is there any chance that Tim Louis will lose?

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I'm disappointed David Eby didn't win a council spot

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Originally posted by Politics101:

Me too. Any chance of a recount on that one and if not would he run as an independent.

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To the best of my knowledge there will be a recount.

I doubt he would run as an independent.

I jokingly mentioned to a friend of mine that he should try and win one of the two COPE nominations (i'm not sure if they're passed their deadline). He'd probably win one!

[ 21 September 2008: Message edited by: Treetop ]

Louis's popularity took a blow when his "no aliance' stance was shot down by his parties membership.

Tim Louis holds a grudge which he obviously feels is more important then progressive civic politics.

I doubt, and certianly hope he does not win his parties nomination. He is un-electable.

It's my understanding that David Eby would not be allowed to be a member of another civic party, pursuant to Vision's party rules. I'm not sure about COPE but i assume their rules are the same.

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[ 21 September 2008: Message edited by: Treetop ]

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Originally posted by Pogo:
Is the COPE nomination still on 28th. Is there any chance that Tim Louis will lose? If I had a vote I would give it to Meena Wong, but I think she is a longshot.

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Pogo

I agree with you that Meena is a fantastic candidate. What can we do to help her win?

Meena, you go girl!

[ 21 September 2008: Message edited by: NorthReport ]

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Originally posted by Piano Guy:
There are a lot of good candidates out there. Unfortunately, smart votes don't count once the the busses arrive.

I am very disturbed by the Vision results as many of the best candidates were beat by the bus load vote. That in my book is undemocratic, unconscionable and a load of crap. The back room boys (and Andrea) should be very concerned, but I doubt they are.

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There is no evidence to support this. From what i heard and gathered there was no "bus load" of people at all.

For the most part, I don't think the incumbents drove in "bus loads" of people, and they won buy nice margins.

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If you didn't see the masses of busses arrive with people wearing turbins then you simply were not there. Denial is not one of your options.

The Vision date was a disaster and has yet to hit the masses.

Just reread your lame response...there was no evidence of bus load voting. You were very obviously patrolling other battle fields.

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If you didn't see the masses of busses arrive with people wearing turbins then you simply were not there. Denial is not one of your options.

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But here's a strong first-and-last warning, Piano Guy. What you wrote is racist. If you continue in this vein, you will be looking for a new forum.

[ 22 September 2008: Message edited by: Michelle ]

Re: consensus, you may be right in this case. The slate was determined by a small group within the group, and that's pretty much how it went. But tell me how is that democratic?

My problem with it is that a few very good candidates were shut out by the slates. The slate makers needed the numbers. Do the math.

I'm left with a sour taste about the whole thing, and I am not alone.

I'll keep it to myself. No more fuel for you.

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"Masses" = classic racist language used to lump different people of colour together, they become without individual identity, and are likened to "hoards" and other imagery that removes their humanity. When are groups of white people referred to as "masses"?

Masses of white people left the Neil Young concert Tuesday night. I don't think so.

"Masses of busses" = "these people are taking over"

"People wearing turbans" = "all those people look alike" = "all those people sound alike" = "all those people vote alike"

An assumption has been made about "people wearing turbans" that they have no left politics, which is a ridiculous assumption. Oh, yes, and it's racist as well.

I know nothing about the politics of Vision Vancouver, or Vancouver civic politics. But I have a general theory. The white left has become comfortable dominating certain positions of leadership. One could even suggest the white left has taken ownership of leadership, seeing this as their "natural" entitlement.

What's the progressive party line again? Oh yeah: More communities of colour getting involved is fine, as long as they vote for white leadership.

Was there not a secret ballot?

Is a voter less worthy if they don't drive to the voting place in their own car?

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This is a very common reality in leftist politics (NDP, most unions, other grassroots activist movements)

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Originally posted by flight from kamakura:
tonight, cope selected cadman and woodsworth to round out the combined left slate.

(whoooT!)

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Originally posted by flight from kamakura:
tonight, cope selected cadman and woodsworth to round out the combined left slate.

(whoooT!)

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What exactly did Councillor Louie say to 'denounce' Libby Davies?

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He said that a vote for her was a vote for Harper and endorsed some rightwing crank running against her for the Liberals.

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When are groups of white people referred to as "masses"?

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The New Colossus

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,

With conquering limbs astride from land to land;

Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand

A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame

Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name

Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand

Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command

The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she

With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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Originally posted by Pogo:

Any idea what the order was.

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1st ballot
cadman
louis
woodsworth
wong
martin? - drops off

2nd ballot
cadman - secures 1st of 2 positions
louis
woodsworth
wong - drops off

3ed ballot
woodsworth - secures 2nd of 2 positions
louis

something like that

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Originally posted by Stockholm:
I think someone should find out whether Louie was there to endorse Libby Davies' opponent or if he was just there to drum up support for himself.

If it is the latter, he should issue a press release making it clear that he DOES NOT support Libby Davies rightwing Liberal opponent - or else faith the wrath of New Democrats across Vancouver.

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