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Rundler
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posted 06 December 2002 12:00 PM      Profile for Rundler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Today is a national day of remembrance that commemorates the massacre of fourteen women in Montreal in 1989. It’s a chance each year to renew our commitment to ending violence against women. In the past few years, people have also been making connections on this day between more obvious forms and causes of violence and those that aren’t as easily recognizable.

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Rebecca West
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posted 06 December 2002 02:16 PM      Profile for Rebecca West     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Today has particular significance for me, as it does for many women across Canada. I couldn't find any of my December 6th buttons from previous years, and no one was handing them out at the subway this morning. Fortunately one of our union guys came around with a bag of them, collecting donations for a women's shelter.

Here's to hoping all of our women babblers are safe today, tonight and every night. And wishing, and working toward the day that all women, everywhere, can be free from violence.


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andrean
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posted 06 December 2002 02:46 PM      Profile for andrean     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was re-reading some of the posts from last year about December 6. Feeling even sadder than I usually do, thinking that people are forgetting...fewer flyers, fewer buttons, less attention by the media. It was 13 years ago and as clear in my mind as if it were yesterday.
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Trinitty
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posted 06 December 2002 05:21 PM      Profile for Trinitty     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'll always remember. My Mom watching, stricken with horror. She's a nurse.

There were several statements in the House of Commons today, a few questions, and a minute of silence.


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Kindred
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posted 07 December 2002 05:03 PM      Profile for Kindred     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
December 6th is a day I will never forget, the sheer horror of it. The shock, the disbelief and the feeling of pain for all the families of the women killed, for the women themselves, and outrage. The outrage burned it was so intense.

Its something we can never let ourselves or our children forget.


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Lima Bean
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posted 09 December 2002 11:00 AM      Profile for Lima Bean   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I attended a really nice vigil in Philosopher's Walk on the UofT campus on Friday. There were some excellent musical performances and some very brave women got up and spoke of their personal experiences with violence. It was all very well done, but it was so terribly cold out that night that we had to leave. Kudos to everyone who stayed through to the end.

My only criticism of the event is that the organizers didn't speak much about the link between the massacre 13 years ago and everyday violence against women. December 6th has become a day to rail against such violence, but I think we still need to make an explicit connection between Marc Lepine and all other misogynist abusers out there; we can't assume that it's intuitive for everyone. We need to get more people thinking about the daily death and suffering of women at the hands of men in terms of massacre, just to get them to feel something for it. Then maybe they'll do something about it too.

[ December 09, 2002: Message edited by: Lima Bean ]


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Kindred
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posted 09 December 2002 02:25 PM      Profile for Kindred     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When I worked for the city mag I used to make sure it got coverage, suggested to less imaginative union mgrs what to say in their ads commemorating the day, supporting eradication of violence against women, contacted all the groups, associations, govt agencies, universities I could think of to remind them, make sure the message stays out there. A message that should be heard all year in reality and not just December.

I was sad this year that there was no event here for me to attend, and I felt as if I wasnt a signifigant part of keeping the message out there and promoting public awareness. Some of you are too young to remember, but it is one of those days in history that is burned into my mind. Every morning Dec 6th I wake up and my heart kind of stops for second -


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Lima Bean
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posted 09 December 2002 02:33 PM      Profile for Lima Bean   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As far as I can tell, the youngest of us here were both born in '78. That's plenty old enough to remember, and my memory of it is clear, thanks.
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Kindred
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posted 09 December 2002 04:48 PM      Profile for Kindred     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I'll always remember. My Mom watching, stricken with horror
This thought gave me the idea that the poster was still pretty young when it happened.

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Trinitty
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posted 09 December 2002 06:21 PM      Profile for Trinitty     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I came upon my mom watching the news. I was 11 and immediately aware of what happened... it was just my Mom's reaction that has really stuck in my mind.

Kindred, was there not a vigil held on the lawn of the courthouse in Courtenay? There's one every year, put on by the women's shelter. They usually do the Take Back the Night march around town too.

[ December 09, 2002: Message edited by: Trinitty ]


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Kindred
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posted 09 December 2002 07:25 PM      Profile for Kindred     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I couldnt find out anything about it, dont have a lot of contacts here. Its not as friendly as Regina, I sure do miss the people there ! But my heart was with those who did have a vigil to attend - I guess I missed one year but phoned my kids to remind them.

I figured you remembered but werent yet old enough to feel the full impact of it, as a woman out there in the world yet.

I am sure your mother was thinking about you, her daughter, as she watched it all. And praying for a better world for you when you were an adult.

If only we could say our daughters wont ever have to face this kind of violence against women.


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clarabel
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posted 09 December 2002 08:06 PM      Profile for clarabel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I went to a commemoration ceremony on Friday night - it was quite moving. There was a video shown of reactions of women in Montreal to the massacre and it was really quite poignant. One of the most interesting parts showed a woman and a man on the street commenting on what happened. The woman reasoned that Lepine may have been an exceptionally violent and angry person and that his act was somewhat isolated (or at least quite uncommon) but that it reflected a more widely held sentiment. The man totally disagreed and felt that it was totally isolated, having no connection to general feeling among many men.

I don't think it is totally serendipitous that the divide in opinion was male-female in that particular case, but I think that the recognition of the isolated incident being rooted in a societal issue gets lost as the anniversaries go by. Some people don't understand why it really is quite important. But, then again, a lot of people don't see the relevance of feminism these days either.


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Trinitty
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posted 10 December 2002 10:16 AM      Profile for Trinitty     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sorry for the thread drift, but,

Kindred, may I ask how you came to move to the Valley?

Have you been to the Bar None Cafe in Courtenay? There's a vibrant arts community in the Valley, I'm sure you'll find some nice people. Have you visited the Islands?

There's a great organics shop on 8th street (I think) next to Bunsmaster, called Edible Island that you might like too.


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Kindred
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posted 10 December 2002 07:26 PM      Profile for Kindred     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I havent been out much at all here, just been trying to get my job here going, and I have had a lot of problems with my disabilities since arriving here. Could be the dampness and humidity. I have been meaning to check out some of these places - thanks for the tip !
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