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audra trower williams
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posted 24 September 2003 01:32 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Bedard was finally sentenced in November 2000 by Justice Lucy Glenn to an 18-month conditional sentence. This means he does not go to jail, but rather serves his time in the community, living at home. He was also ordered to pay $15,000.00 to the Chatham-Kent Sexual Assault Crisis Centre and will be on probation for three years.

The Centre refused to accept the "donation." Director Michelle Schryer said: "We don't want to live in a society where men who enjoy privilege have the ability to receive a more lenient sentence than someone who lives in poverty." Further, the Centre took the position "that a conditional sentence for someone who can repeatedly breach a position of trust is not acceptable."


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what do you think? I think it's sort of daft.


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Michelle
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posted 24 September 2003 01:36 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think it's a principled stand. Right on.
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nonsuch
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posted 28 September 2003 11:23 PM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Put the bastard in jail.
Then audit his tax returns.
Then fund women's centers properly and adaquately, through the appropriate government agency.

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Bilbo
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posted 10 October 2003 05:23 PM      Profile for Bilbo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"The policy makes it clear that there are circumstances in which the Centre would accept donations from perpetrators. Certain conditions must be present. In part: the victim(s) must be in agreement, the perpetrator must show sincere remorse, there will be no requirement of a charitable donation receipt and there will be no right of publicity.

So much for principles.

Bedard's sentence is currently under appeal after a massive letter-writing and telephone campaign organized by the sexual assault centre."

This seems to be unfair to the defendent. Because of the publicity of the case, the centre felt the need to go back after him after he had been sentenced? This after they have said they would accepts donations from certain perpetrators under their own conditions?

"We don't want to live in a society where men who enjoy privilege have the ability to receive a more lenient sentence than someone who lives in poverty."

Again, this is in conflict with their policy to accept donations(which one can reasonably infer are the result of lighter sentences) from certain individuals and not others.


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Madame X
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posted 11 October 2003 05:28 PM      Profile for Madame X     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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"Some of the key issues identified by the Centre in its deliberations on this matter were:

the conflict of interest that could be generated by the establishment of a direct connection between the Centre and the offenders
the possibility of the perpetrator using the payment to further abuse his victim(s), by saying, for example: "I fund the services you are receiving."
the injustice of those who enjoy privilege in our society having the ability to buy preferred sentencing, absolution or forgiveness
the possibility of such payments furthering the objectification of victims (as in, certain crimes carry certain price tags). "

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He should be sent to jail, instead of being able to use $$$ to avoid a harsher penalty for the crime. It's long past time for those who have money to be able to pay their way out of their own misconduct.

It happens that certain people who get convicted of domestic violence can pay $$$ to a domestic violence shelter to avoid jail time. Is that fair, if another defendant doesn't have that money. Sorry dude, you go to jail BUT not because it's a horrendous crime, but b/c you don't have enough money to avoid it.


What's unfair about what's happening to this guy? Think of some other defendant who might be jailed instead, due to lack of funds. Or the victims who watch their assailments be sentenced in accordance to their finances rather than the crimes themselves.

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Internet Devil
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posted 14 October 2003 02:51 PM      Profile for Internet Devil        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think the 18-month sentence and fine is fair. He is lucky his case is not in US.
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Madame X
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posted 14 October 2003 03:45 PM      Profile for Madame X     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I know, he or she might get a $1,000 fine, 10 days community service and a 52-week anger management course. If he or she makes it through that, they could get it expunged in less than two years.

I've worked for volunteer service centers which provide those services to people convicted of domestic violence. That's how it goes.

Life is so tough.


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