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... that it is different under the American command than under NATO. We are going to do exactly the same thing. Our military is going to perform the same roles. Our aid people are going to do the same thing. Our diplomats and the RCMP are going to do the same thing. There will not be one iota of change except that we will be under NATO command instead of Enduring Freedom. Nothing will change.

We are following the same tactics. We are following NATO tactics. Go check what the French are doing in the north. Go check what the Germans are doing in the north. They are doing the same thing.

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I realize its just nitpicking but...

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The French, German and Italian forces patrol relatively quiet sectors in the north, but are also under self-imposed limitations that keep them out of combat operations.

Some forces are not allowed to patrol 70 kilometres beyond their bases - meaning soldiers can't stay outside of the wire overnight.

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...I really hate being lied to.

Are you saying O'Connor said that once under NATO, Canadians would be doing the same work as the French and Germans, and that's a lie? Or are you saying that he said that there would be no change for Canada in the transition from Enduring Freedom to ISAF, and that's a lie? Or are you suggesting you'd like to see some French and Germans risking their lives in the south?

[ 17 November 2006: Message edited by: BitWhys ]

whatever

...and by the way, what O'Connor was saying is that everyone in Afghanistan would be doing the same thing under NATO command as they did before under direct US command. He did not say that Canada, Germany, and all he other NATO countries would now be doing the same things as each other.

[ 17 November 2006: Message edited by: M. Spector ]

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The NDP keep saying that it is different under the American command than under NATO. We are going to do exactly the same thing. Our military is going to perform the same roles. Our aid people are going to do the same thing. Our diplomats and the RCMP are going to do the same thing. There will not be one iota of change except that we will be under NATO command instead of Enduring Freedom. Nothing will change.

We are following the same tactics. We are following NATO tactics. Go check what the French are doing in the north. Go check what the Germans are doing in the north. They are doing the same thing.

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meanwhile the French and the Germans aren't even on the front lines, let alone taking combat duties. make of it what you will. I get it already. Just don't mention the war.

[ 17 November 2006: Message edited by: BitWhys ]

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Originally posted by BitWhys:
First, the legitimate market is dominated by an oligarchy (American, btw) and if there's one thing oligarchies hate, its change. The second, an assumption, is that after 5 years there still isn't enough real government developed to oversee a project of that complexion.

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