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Tuppence
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posted 18 May 2006 11:45 PM      Profile for Tuppence     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi all. This comes off the back of yet another fun day of sexual objectification/discrimination.

I literally cannot leave the house without being subjected to one or both of these things. I have unusual, striking features as well as red hair and a fit, muscular, hourglass figure- I have a distinctive look, and people tend to either find me extremely attractive or freakishly unattractive, with little middle ground. This I have no problem with, eye of the beholder and all that.

What I DO have a big problem with is the fact that men and teenage boys have no trouble telling me what they think of the way I look. It's either creepy leering of an unmistakably sexual sort or being called ugly or freak. Who asked you, you fucking asshole?

Don't get me wrong, I have no trouble defending myself verbally (or physically, if it came to that). Doesn't mean I'm not exhausted by it all.

I go about my day, minding my own business and I would never dream of subjecting anyone to the harrassment many women receive on a daily basis.

You want to fuck me? Fine. You don't? Also fine. I just don't want to hear about it, okay?

Women of babble, do you feel me on this? I'm just so tired of it.

This isn't all men, or even most men. It's just that there are enough assholes out there to never quite let me forget, even for a day, that I am female and my brain is judged secondary to my body. I am so angry. What gives them the right? Do they have mothers, sisters?

FUCK!

[ 19 May 2006: Message edited by: Tuppence ]


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clersal
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posted 19 May 2006 01:08 AM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Some men have not evolved. Maybe one day........
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Michelle
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posted 19 May 2006 07:27 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't really have the type of looks that get me noticed one way or the other, Tuppence - I'm relatively plain. So I'm generally rather invisible on the street except for the odd occasion when I've been asked for my phone number or whatever. (Those occasions more shock me than piss me off, I guess because it doesn't happen very often and when it does I think, you can't be serious. )

But I can understand how peeved it must make you, because on a somewhat related note, I've known people who think that if I'm friendly to them, it must mean I want to fuck them. Um, no, not necessarily! Or people who don't take the hint from extremely obvious body language or tone of voice that says, "I'm not interested!" and makes you spell it out in words of one or two syllables before they get off your case. I think that's on the same continuum of guys who feel like they just have to tell a perfect stranger that they wanna get laid, or that she's too ugly to fuck.

Thank god not all guys are like that.


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Stargazer
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posted 19 May 2006 07:52 AM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What do you mean Michelle, you're a goddess!

My favorite part is when you dare talk to them - surely you must want to have sex with them? I'm 41 now and I still get looks and it still bothers me at some times, and not at all at others. I hate when I am approached by a complete stranger on the street. Or worse, when there is just you walking by a bunch of men. That's always a very uncomfortable and frightening situation (too many men around, no protection + cat calls = scared).


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steffie
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posted 19 May 2006 09:22 AM      Profile for steffie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've experienced this type of abuse. It really is abuse.

The only thing I've come up with to combat this is to think up witty comebacks (which I cannot come up with at the moment), and also to TRY to raise a son who would never think of treating a woman like this.

Sometimes I wonder if these men were raised in a positive household, and if they were, what happened?? Is male culture such that this is inevitable? Dear Goddess, I hope not.

Perhaps we can come up with some snappy comebacks, ones that place the shame of this behaviour squarely on the shoulders of the abusers.


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Naci_Sey
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posted 19 May 2006 10:11 PM      Profile for Naci_Sey   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Tuppence, I experienced a lot of that when I was younger. Absolutely hated it; was like having to walk the plank everytime I went anywhere.

Mostly, my reaction was simply to ignore the idiots, but occasionally I'd give them such a glare of loathing... That sometimes got the message through, at least to the 'nicer' guys who were acting out to impress their peers; they'd look back at me sheepishly.


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kiwi_chick
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posted 19 May 2006 11:53 PM      Profile for kiwi_chick        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OMG this one time this two girls were walking in a busy street and some group of men came out of nowhere and pinched them on their bums. The girls got scared and ran away, while the men were laughing. I'd take name calling to touching anyday.
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Summer
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posted 26 May 2006 11:26 AM      Profile for Summer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm fairly average looking so don't have to deal with crap like Tuppence does on a regular basis. I did spend one summer in France though and by the time I came back home I hated all men. Men of all ages from pre-pubescent (sp?) boys to wrinkly old men would catcall, wistle, ask me to sleep with them etc. and then get offended when I told them no. Apparently, if you are female in France and do not have a man to "protect" you, you are looking to pick up and will say yes to anyone who asks.

What I found even more strange than the inappropriate behaviour and sense of entitlement from the men was that the local women put up with this and did not seem offended by it. Oh "boys will be boys, don't you know?" Excuse me while I throw up.


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