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Anchoress
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posted 18 August 2004 01:28 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is pretty interesting.

Archaeologists announced yesterday that they have found a cave in the Judean Hills leading to the oldest baptismal site discovered to date - a huge water cistern decorated with evocative wall carvings where they believe John the Baptist annointed many disciples.


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BleedingHeart
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posted 18 August 2004 09:15 PM      Profile for BleedingHeart   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Its interesting how they can take an archeological discovery of indeterminate age and attribute it to someone who may have been in business for 5-10 years somewhere in the area and who wasn't written about until 200 years later.
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aRoused
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posted 23 August 2004 04:29 AM      Profile for aRoused     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'll check out the credentialling of the various persons involved after work today. Most probably, this is just the newspaper inflating 'possibles' articulated by the archaeologists they interviewed.

Of course, some archaeologists are more..expansive than others in their 'possibles'...

Edited:

Briefly checking, both Gibson and the other archaeologist from the 'States seem to have doctorates from respectable universities, UCL in the case of Gibson. Not that respectable universities haven't accredited cranks, and (unfortunately) 'Biblical' archaeology seems to bring cranks out of the woodwork...

I think this is almost certainly a case of archaeologists and newsies conspiring, perhaps unintentionally, to produce a puffed-up version of what they've really found. What has been found, from the article, is a cave with Byzantine (ie, post c. AD400) carvings referring to John, in a cave with rock-cut features dating probably to earlier times, including a putative baptismal font with interesting and unique-ish foot-anointing features in the lower steps, etc, etc.

No real evidence that it's specifically the Baptist's cave, but stay out of the way of the pilgriming faithful as they swarm the joint. Hope they've got good crowd control barriers and that they pump the 'donations' received into a worthwhile cause like a good after-dig party for the excavation team...

[ 23 August 2004: Message edited by: aRoused ]


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