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Doug
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posted 12 June 2008 08:52 AM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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In a stunning blow to the Bush Administration in its war-on-terrorism policies, the Supreme Court ruled Thursday that foreign nationals held at Guantanamo Bay have a right to pursue habeas challenges to their detention. The Court, dividing 5-4, ruled that Congress had not validly taken away habeas rights. If Congress wishes to suspend habeas, it must do so only as the Constitution allows — when the country faces rebellion or invasion.

http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/court-gives-detainees-habeas-rights/

[ 12 June 2008: Message edited by: Doug ]


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Le Téléspectateur
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posted 12 June 2008 09:04 AM      Profile for Le Téléspectateur     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That photo is disgusting.
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jas
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posted 12 June 2008 09:22 AM      Profile for jas     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow. Could it be? Some sanity prevails? That's really great news.
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B.L. Zeebub LLD
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posted 12 June 2008 10:57 AM      Profile for B.L. Zeebub LLD     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Le Téléspectateur:
That photo is disgusting.

True. Having hydro wires so close to places where bears or people could fall out of trees is very dangerous.


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Doug
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posted 12 June 2008 12:12 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Le Téléspectateur:
That photo is disgusting.

I'm pretty sure it's Photoshopped. In any case - replaced.


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Doug
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posted 12 June 2008 12:12 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Now the court in Washington DC has to decide how to hear hundreds of cases. Oopsie.

[ 12 June 2008: Message edited by: Doug ]


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B.L. Zeebub LLD
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posted 12 June 2008 12:41 PM      Profile for B.L. Zeebub LLD     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Doug:

I'm pretty sure it's Photoshopped. In any case - replaced.


Egads! What if that child was hurt?


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Doug
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posted 12 June 2008 08:43 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Now there's a GOP senator who's willing to go to the extent of amending the constitution to stop this.

quote:
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) vowed Thursday to do everything in his power to overturn the Supreme Court’s decision on Guantanamo Bay detainees, saying that, “if necessary,” he would push for a constitutional amendment to modify the decision.

A former military prosecutor, Graham blasted the decision as “irresponsible and outrageous,” echoing the sentiments of many congressional Republicans and President Bush.


Looney-tunes!


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munroe
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posted 13 June 2008 06:36 AM      Profile for munroe     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What is particularly frightening in my mind is that the Court split 5-4. That's not encouraging.
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Catchfire
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posted 13 June 2008 07:00 AM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Agreed. A McCain presidency and a new conservative thug in the Supreme Court means justice will be dead in the United States. As opposed to the current state of paralysis.
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jeff house
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posted 13 June 2008 08:10 AM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That sounds like a very practical reason to support Obama; to save habeas corpus, which is a core protection of civil liberty, and has been for the past 700 years or so.
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oldgoat
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posted 13 June 2008 08:24 AM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think I've posted something along those lines myself. Even if there was no other differnce between the two, (which I think is nonsense) who do you want making important judicial appointments, because it IS going to be one or the other.

Show you just how fragile even the most basic freedoms are down there.


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jester
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posted 13 June 2008 08:34 AM      Profile for jester        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is the third time that the SC has challenged the Bush admin on this issue. Expect a third end run around the court. I'm surprised one or two liberal judges haven't had an accident.

Bush and his stooges need to be charged with war crimes. Oh,right they already are - does anyone know the status of that charge?


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jeff house
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posted 13 June 2008 08:35 AM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Three of the five Justices in the majority -- John Paul Stevens (age 88), Ruth Bader Ginsburg (age 75) and David Souter (age 68) -- are widely expected by court observers to retire or otherwise leave the Court in the first term of the next President. By contrast, the four judges who dissented -- Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas, John Roberts and Sam Alito -- are expected to stay right where they are for many years to come.

John McCain has identified Roberts and Alito as ideal justices of the type he would nominate, while Barack Obama has identified Stephen Breyer, David Souter and Ginsberg (all in the majority today). It's not hyperbole to say that, from Supreme Court appointments alone, our core constitutional protections could easily depend upon the outcome of the 2008 election.


glen greenwald


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josh
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posted 13 June 2008 10:33 AM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't see either Ginsburg or Souter retiring if McCain wins. Given Stevens's age, there's always the possibility his seat will become vacant sometime in the next four years.
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