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Deception
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posted 01 June 2003 06:38 PM      Profile for Deception     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
buy cuban cigars
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beluga2
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posted 02 June 2003 03:34 AM      Profile for beluga2     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Don't believe in mincing words, do you, Deception?

If you'll recall, the European Union threatened to "fuck" the Helms-Burton Act by filing a WTO complaint a few years back, but then chickened out at the last minute. Wimps.

(By the way, I'd love to help, but I don't smoke.)


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Deception
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posted 02 June 2003 11:23 AM      Profile for Deception     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
i didn't know the EU backed out but many international observers believed the WTO might have ruled in the favour of the EU. Did u know the embargo has killed over 500,000 cubans?
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beluga2
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posted 03 June 2003 02:01 AM      Profile for beluga2     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No, I didn't. Where'd you get that figure? (If that's spread over 44 years of sanctions, it gives about 11,000 deaths per year. Wow.)

And yeah, the EU would almost definitely have won, given the blatant illegality of the H-B Act. Which is why the US just packed up in a huff and went home, thus proving that WTO complaints are useless against a country which is big & powerful enough to simply ignore the rules.


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radiorahim
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posted 03 June 2003 11:11 PM      Profile for radiorahim     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well if you don't smoke but drink beer, the "Cristal" brand of Cuban beer is available in both LCBO and Brewer's Retail stores here in Ontario.

Its brewed in Holguin, Cuba.

Cuban coffee can also be found in certain specialty shops...and of course there's Havana Club rum!


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Deception
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posted 07 June 2003 12:01 PM      Profile for Deception     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
i wasn't able to get exact numbers on the embargo related deaths but i did remember reading some scholarly work for a paper i wrote that did cite the 500,000 number. most of the deaths could be attributed to the fall of the USSR and their subsequent inability to buy Cuban sugar, grains, etc. at inflated rates. although, cuba does have one of highest literacy rates in the developing world at 96% and for decades it has been educating Africans as well as sending doctors to treat the ill of the third world. but the embargo, the collapse of the USSR and the tightening of the sanctions via the notorious Helms-Burton Act in 96 has coerced the cuban government into ideal altering measures. in 93/94 Castro began privatizing the economy a little bit to offset the crap hand they have been dealt. nonetheless, the UN general assembly has widely condemned the murderous sanctions with of course two notable exceptions; the Americans and Israel.
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