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Originally posted by HeywoodFloyd:
Horrible all right. Hopefully it wont be as traumatic for the drivers as it is for train engineers who run over morons on the tracks.

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I had to read you several times over to be sure you had written something so vile.

So you're in favour of foreign tyrants "liberating" Iraqis by shutting down their press? Not only that, but you can make flaccid jokes about tanks running down protesters brave enough to behave as though it were citizens who belonged on city streets and not tanks?

Kids today, just no respect, throwing themselves in front of armoured vehicles. As I remember it some Chinese tank drivers stopped, others didn't bother, or didn't bother to see.

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Originally posted by WingNut:
Yeah. The other difference is that the lone protestor in Tiannamen sqaure wasn't actually crushed either.

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Originally posted by HeywoodFloyd:
This situation is like the Rachel Corrie incident. Good for her for standing on principle. Dumb on her for forgetting that we aren't much more than a watermelon.

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I do hope you are unaware of the fact that in the Rachel Corrie case, the 'dozer driver played chicken with her for at least half an hour before finally running her down. It was certainly not a case of being unaware of her presence. More like a driver who would have preferred to get around her or scare her away, but settled for murder if that was what it took to get his assignment of destroying someone's home accomplished.

In related news:

10 U.S. Troops Killed in Iraqi Violence

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NAJAF, Iraq (AP) - Supporters of an anti-American cleric rioted in four Iraqi cities Sunday, battling coalition troops in the worst unrest since the spasm of looting and arson immediately after the fall of Saddam Hussein. At least 22 Iraqis, eight U.S. troops and one Salvadoran soldier died.

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Iraq Ambush Hurts 3 Portugal,2 Italy Police

Four dead in North Iraq blast

British troops clash with Iraqi demonstrators

Violent Disturbances in Iraq From Baghdad to Southern Cities

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By day's end, witnesses said Shiite militiamen controlled the city of Kufa, south of Baghdad, with armed men loyal to a radical cleric occupying the town's police stations and checkpoints.

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Originally posted by HeywoodFloyd:
Rufus, it is like the Corrie incident in that in both cases, activists were crushed under armored tracked vehicles.

You have brought up a good point. If the intent of the tank drivers was not to crush the activists and they did so inadvertently, then do the drivers (or the US in general) deserve any anger directed against them? It seems like the drivers were doing everything they could do to avoid crushing these morons.

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Well, I tend to suspect that the tank drivers did not crush the guys inadvertently, but currently we just don't have the evidence one way or another; it could well have been accidental (unlike the murder of Rachel Corrie). But I assumed you thought so. I couldn't imagine anyone insensitive enough to be mocking people who were deliberately run over, so I had just assumed you believed that in both Corrie's case and this one it was inadvertent, just an accident based on size/momentum/poor sight lines.
If you made your original comment believing they were crushed deliberately (and knowing Corrie was), then your original comment was sick and brutal.