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Topic: hack writers of the world, unite!
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Igor the Miserable
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posted 27 May 2005 12:49 PM
Sure, feel free to move it to Labour.Yes, I'm inclined to agree with you lagatta - organizing freelancers must be a bit like herding cats. I don't know about the benefits this new union could offer, though. The CAJ already offers seminars and conferences galore, and PWAC has done some good work in the area of copyright. Frankly I can get better insurance coverage than the Liberty Health stuff those two organizations offer by either buying directly from the insurer or going through my alumni association. Sure, I would like a union to negotiate better freelance rates and better copyright protection for me. But as a freelancer, I chose to give up all the good things that come with a 9-5 job (i.e., a pension, sick leave, paid holidays). I'm prepared to accept lower wages than full timers in return for never having to sit through a meeting or see the inside of a grey cubicle again. Some might call it a personality flaw, but there you have it. So how does the union reconcile my Balzac-in-his-bathrobe lifestyle with that of the good folks who report to the office every day? Shouldn't the CEP be protecting its current members from people like me, rather than trying to bring me inside the tent? (edited to add reply to lagatta) [ 27 May 2005: Message edited by: Igor the Miserable ] [ 27 May 2005: Message edited by: Igor the Miserable ]
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GingerGoodwin
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posted 27 May 2005 04:34 PM
CEP is the largest media union in Canada with about 25,000 members who were once in the Guild, ITU, GCIU and NABET. The total union has about 150,000 members, all Canadian. Essentially the union is the largest in telecomunications, energy, paper and the media. In print daily newsrooms CEP represents Toronto Star, Globe and Mail, Toronto Sun, London Free Press, Winnipeg Free Press, Hamilton Spectator, Vancouver Sun, Province and some smaller papers. It also represents workers at a hundred or so weeklies. The CEP also is the primary TV union. Most CTV, Global and CHUM workers belong. In total there are over a hundred media locals with members all the way from reporters, photographers, arttsts, web designers to press operators, ad sales reps and sound technicians. CEP was created as a media union because Canadian members of U.S. based unions were tired of belonging to organizations that worked with the CIA to undermine leftwing government, tired of belnging to organizations that were rapidly declining and quite frankly thought a Canadian union was a good idea. As someone who was at the CEP Media Conference that decided to go ahead with this project to organize freelancers, I think it is important to note that many current CEP members have had the attitude in the past of "just go away" towards freelancers. The big shift has been towards the idea that we are all media workers and that in unity there is strength. I think if the CEP throws its weight behind freelancers it can improve payment, the copyright situation, training etc. for people who currently must face big corporations on their own.
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Erstwhile
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posted 27 May 2005 05:17 PM
I'd be interested to see how "freelancers" would be dealt with under the various Trade Union Acts...I mean in a lot of cases, a freelancer is almost the very definition of an "independent contractor" and therefore not eligible to be unionized.I have some difficulty equating freelance writers with "employees" (or in some jurisdictions, also "dependent contractors) - who can join unions - given that AFAIK most freelance writers sell to a variety of publications and - beyond providing the finished piece on time - have no obligations to the publisher in terms of hours worked, behaviour while working, etc. I don't see how, legally, this is going to work. Of course I stand to be corrected if I've mischaracterized the situation. Oh, but then again, just noticed this in the link: quote: An effective union for Canadian freelance journalists and communication professionals must have legal standing under federal and/or provincial law and sufficient bargaining power to negotiate minimum payments for work contracted by media, government, corporate, union and non-profit employers. This will require lobbying government to change legislation. To build this union we invite everyone who works as an independent contractor in the Canadian media and communication industries to join.
So I guess they're aware of the difficulties.
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radiorahim
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posted 27 May 2005 08:42 PM
Essentially, you would organize on a "craft union" model instead of an "industrial union" model.The "craft" union model is common in the film and television industry and a number of "cultural" sectors along with the construction industry. These are all industries where a worker is not "tied" to a single employer...and to some degree is "freelancing". "Craft" unions usually negotiate pay scales etc. with an industry association so that common conditions exist across an entire sector. This is quite different from the "industrial" model where a union represents folks working for a particular employer.
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skdadl
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posted 16 June 2005 09:06 AM
Sorry I've missed this discussion till now.Does anyone know whether the CEP has been in touch with The Writers' Union of Canada? I'm not an expert on how active or effective TWUC is, although they have been leading a long and tough battle over copyright with a number of Canadian newspapers, notably the G&M. Last I heard, they are getting somewhere, too, although the legal stages of the case are immensely complex and I'd need a refresher on the details. And as an aside: I found this thread because I was checking out your profile, GingerGoodwin. Welcome to babble. You perhaps know that your photo and your story were featured on page 3 of yesterday's Globe and Mail?
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Timebandit
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posted 16 June 2005 10:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by robbie_dee:
Over 1800 freelance writers who write for television, movies and radio are already unionized through the Writers Guild of Canada. I don't see any reason why their group should be entitled to union representation but not those who work in the print field. Actually I'm inclined to ask why the WGC has not tried to tackle organizing print writers itself, particularly since media concentration had often brought print and broadcast media into the same conglomerates (i.e. Canwest). [ 27 May 2005: Message edited by: robbie_dee ]
I think WGC is also involved with print writers in the cultural sector -- our local branch has far more workshops, etc, that benefit novelists, short story writers and poets than screenwriters. However, they do set standard fees for film and television writers in the industry.
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