The Vancouver 9/11 Truth Society will host an international conference to expose the realities, myths, omissions and distortions of the official narrative of the events of September 11th, 2001, and present evidence which contradicts what the public has been told about that fateful day, and evidence that has been ignored.

Presenters will detail the numerous reasons why a new, full, and impartial investigation into 9/11 is required.

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"Some might say that 9/11 has changed Canada’s foreign policies in such a way that Canada is no longer regarded on the world stage as a peace-loving country, but a country willing to use its military preemptively based on nothing more than the trust we hold in the word of our southern neighbour.

But what if the official story of 9/11 was a lie? What if 9/11, as the evidence now suggests, was a self inflicted wound? How many of us would /then /support the War on Terror?

The last six months have seen a massive resurgence of interest in 9/11, and the official story of what really happened that day is being attacked on all fronts. Groups denouncing the official story have popped up all over North America.

Organizations such as the Journal of 9/11 Studies, Scholars for 9/11 Truth, Pilots for 9/11 Truth, and Veterans for 9/11 Truth – are all composed of well respected people from all walks of life who share a common goal of exposing the truth behind 9/11, and ending this so called “War on Terror”." article by Vancouver 9/11 Truth Director in magazine Common Ground.

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A just released video prepared in support of the Vancouver 9/11 Truth Conference, June 22-24, 2007 by Graeme MacQueen, a recently retired religious studies professor, highlights the 503 eyewitness accounts from 9/11 1st responder men and women that ran to 12,000 pages, which were not included in the 9/11 Commission Report.

Topics at conference which align with Babble/Rabble include:

# The History of False Flag Terrorism by governments and intelligence agencies to justify military interventions, spending, and extraordinary domestic measures.

# Canada's participation in the War On Terror and in Afghanistan, and that country's real relationship to 9/11.

# The use of Depleted Uranium Weapons and their effects on local populations, soldiers and the world, as well Canada's roll in producing such weapons.

# The Weaponization of Space, Canada's participation in the Space Program and the Military Industrial Complex, as well as advanced weaponry, and potential uses.

# The S.P.P. (Security and Prosperity Partnership) between the USA, Canada and Mexico, which many contend is a blueprint for a North American Union (without citizen input nor public debate), as well as the fate of democracy, sovereignty, civil rights, Canadian culture, and our national identity.

# Globalization and “New World Order” agenda for Canada and the world.

# The emerging culture of surveillance of ordinary citizens in Canada and worldwide.

# Gatekeeping: Supression of information by the mass media, political parties, authors and political commentators.

Conference speakers include (among many others!):

Leuren Moret US Flag, Depleted Uranium expert whistleblower, researcher and educator, will speak about DU contamination globally with a special report on DU in Hawaii and how this is impacting Canada directly.

Ms. Connie Fogal canada flag, Leader of the Canadian Action Party on the Security and Prosperity Partnership and the North American Union. Her registered federal political party has made the need for a new 9/11 investigation its highest priority in its election platform.

Prof. Michael Keefer canada flag, (U. Guelph) on the Gatekeepers - those in media or public position who refuse to examine the evidence and / or dissuade others from doing so.

Mr. Ken Fernandez canada flag, a lawyer, writer and member of the Canadian Action Party will discuss Canada's Response to 9/11 and the Virtual Capitulation of our National Sovereignty. He is a former Vice-President of CAP .

Dennis Kyne US Flag, combat veteran and expert on Depleted Uranium, will speak about the US Army’s use of Depleted Uranium in Iraq and Afghanistan, and on Depleted Uranium and Health Effects.

A preview of a forthcoming 9/11 documentary called Shadow Play by Australian director Gillian Norman Aus. and 911 Eyewitness (TV Edit) produced by the Blue Star Media Group.

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The momentum is there. We all witnessed Rosie O'Donnell carry it on prime time US television, we also witnessed ABC news primetime carry it last night re : secretive CIA torture prisons. Socially democratic Italy is now trying the perpetrators. Social Democats Bernie Sanders & Dennis Kucinich put forth a Bush impeachment motion, and a new book called "Brothers" on the CIA connection to the Kennedy tragedies/assasinations is released.

Let the shift towards transparent and benevolent democratic socialism commence.

Bring on the revolution, but let it begin at home.

As I understand it, the gist of it seems to be that the attacks were "needed" to make the invasion of Iraq more palatable. But why? There weren't attacks before Gulf War No. 1. Since when does the USA need a "reason" to do anything?

And the attacks were committed by Saudis. So Bush invaded Iraq. How does this zigzag benefit the USA's credibility?

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Originally posted by DB3:
Powell's admission is interesting though.

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Originally posted by Phonz:

It didn't seem like much of an admission to me. Now, if he had said that he had evidence that Bush had engineered 911, then THAT would be an interesting admission. But the shit that's going on right now in Cuba and elsewhere? The USA will NEVER recover their reputation.

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Still, it is a slight shift towards transparent acknowledgement of past errors.

Powell hasn't morphed into Chomsky, or Rosie O'Donnell, but such expectations or demands would be completely unrealistic, given the fact that Powell could be threatened or offed if he went to far to the anti-Bush extreme.

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Originally posted by CosmicPositive:
Still, it is a slight shift towards transparent acknowledgement of past errors.

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He's steadfast and strong, steadfast & strong... "don't wanna flip-flop like them dems..."

History will mark Bush as the worst leader in American history, and possibly the most destructive international force in modern times.

But beneath the Bushian figurehead, remember, is the staunch & blind Neo-Conservative political philosophy.

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Originally posted by Phonz:
You know, CP, even if you are correct, your style is so off-putting that a lot of people are going to tune out. The thread is about 911 conspiracy and the NEW, BIG INFO about same. Didn't seem new, didn't seem big. Now Powell says that maybe Guantanamo Bay wasn't such a good idea. Wow.

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I don't care about hyper-sensitive reactions to verified reality.

North America has been in a right-wing daze, and it's time that stopped.

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Originally posted by Fidel:
Sure, Colon POWell can say those things about Gitmo now.

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No kidding.... Great to say that in retrospect that he thinks they're a bad idea. But he was the moron who went to the UN to 'plead his case' for the war in Iraq.

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Originally posted by Fidel:
Sure, Colon POWell can say those things about Gitmo now. The fascists have reverted to plan "G", "Ghost" gulags for torture in Eastern Europe and around the world.

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Actually, Fidel, in the radio clip I heard Powell said the inmates of Guantanamo should be placed in the US federal penal system.

But I have a different response to the basic premise of this thread. How would Canadians and their governments react if we were the victims of a major Al Qaeda terrorist attack?

Suppose Bin Laden and his associates were to decide that there's too much Jewish wealth and influence in Montreal and Toronto, and that they are going to deal with that by putting some bombs on the Montreal subway, or sending a couple of huge truck bombs into the basement garage of a Toronto office building. Suppose that the result is a few hundred, perhaps even a thousand of more dead and many injuries.

How would public opinion in Canada react? Would every hot line host in the nation be on the air the day after telling their listeners, "Whatever we do, we must not overreact!"? Would the conversation in every bar, coffee shop and hair salon stick to the approved subjects, hockey and the weather?

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Originally posted by Jacob Two-Two:
However, there is no chance of that happenning.

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Originally posted by quelar:
Like rational beings (RCMP investigators excluded).

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The people participating in Canada's 9/11 truth movement include people of a wide range of age and political beliefs, seasoned anti-war activists, savvy media-minds, a surprising number of professionals from many fields.

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Originally posted by FraserValleyMan:

Is that the best description of Canada's reaction? Or was it indifference on the part of the established Canadian majority to a terrorist assault on a visible minority of new Canadians?

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You may have something there about a lot of places. My experience is a little different however, my high school lost two brothers in the bombing (the parents tragically sent them on a trip to see their grandparents and remained behind). I can say that anger was definitely a first reaction, but shortly after the discussions started. Having a wide variety of races and religions (at least for the area) it was easy to become more tolerant when given the opportunity to discuss the issues in general.

In fact that was the first thing I said after 9/11. We just got a wake up call, let's start talking about the real issues now lest we allow it to happen again.

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Is there something about Canada which puts us off limits to terrorists like Bin Laden?

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Yes. Irrelevence. Why would Al-Queda bother to commit an attack on Canadian soil when they could just as easily hit the US instead? It doesn't make any sense. Granted, we've done some things to make us a target, but we're still just the junior partner in the kinder, gentler Imperial ambitions of the modern west. No more than a sidekick really. The US has done absolutely nothing to make itself more secure, so why bother dicking around with less crucial countries?

So, Al Qaeda has attacked the US (twice), Indonesia, various African spots, England, Spain, a number of middle eastern targets, ships in the gulf, and of course, facilities in Iraq and Afghanistan that are American Empire run.

What did Indonesia do above and beyond Canada to earn that mark? Canada has been a willing participant in the middle east misadventures for quite some time and I'm sure it has left it's mark.

I do agree that yet another attack on New York would be the strongest message that the US has miserable failed to quell any terrorism, but if sheer disruption is the attempt a few boats in both Halifax and Vancouver would certainly throw off the international shipping world for some time. (Do they make you take off your shoes getting on a boat?)

Canada is as much of a target as anyone else in the world, it's simply a matter of whether it's worth doing anything now. They have the US military stretched, public opinion is against any further incurssions into the ME, the West has given up most of the 'freedoms' Bush was so adament they hated.

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Originally posted by Jacob Two-Two:
Why would Al-Queda bother to commit an attack on Canadian soil when they could just as easily hit the US instead? It doesn't make any sense.

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What makes sense to Bin Laden is probably a bit different that what makes sense to most people. What sense did it make to bomb the World Trade Centre, or the subways in Spain and London?

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Originally posted by Lard Tunderin' Jeezus:
Trust FVM to get right down with the medieval mindset. I'm thinking few of us can challenge him on that count.

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Originally posted by FraserValleyMan:
I put forward what could easily be a "rationale" for Al Qaeda type minds, the presence of rich Jewish communities in both Montreal and Toronto with investments the world over.

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Originally posted by remind:

He is talking about this comment!

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Al Qaeda is oft described as having a medieval POV (fighting the Crusaders still). You claimed to understand their thoughts and motives.

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What sense did it make to bomb the World Trade Centre

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Do you really not know the answer to this question?

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I put forward what could easily be a "rationale" for Al Qaeda type minds, the presence of rich Jewish communities in both Montreal and Toronto with investments the world over.

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Some may train in caves in deserts.

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Originally posted by Jacob Two-Two:
This is why someone like you can never understand this conflict, because you want to turn them into cartoons. The facts show that Al-Queda behaves nothing like you imagine. Rather than flailing about on reckless whims, blowing up Jewish neighbourhoods, they attack embassies and the WTC. Potent symbols that demonstrate their power and rally their supporters. For this reason, actions are crafted to their base, who would be mostly puzzled by an attack on downtown Toronto.

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What was the symbolic value of the bombs in the Madrid and London subways?

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Originally posted by Jacob Two-Two:
FVM asked how Canada would respond to an "Al Queda" attack, by which I took to mean, the higher command of any Islamic fundamentalist terror network, whatever its structure, that is actually able to organise attacks on foreign soil, especially in North America.

If they have this ability at all (and it seems unlikely that they do, since they haven't shown it), then I doubt they would waste those resources in Canada.

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If the West was really interested in peace they would withdraw their troops from EVERYWHERE EXCEPT THEIR OWN COUNTRIES and begin unilateral disarmament of their excess military cpability. Next they would end the export of any and all weapons.