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googlymoogly
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posted 06 March 2005 07:31 PM      Profile for googlymoogly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am a member of the globalfeminisms community, and someone brought this to our attention:

An lj user has been stealing the userpics of female lj'ers and assesssing them as "rapeable" or not. The user who brought this to our attention reported him to LJAbuse, and this is the respose she got:

Dear user,

Thank you for your report. We have reviewed the content in question and have found no violations of LiveJournal's Terms of Service. While mention of the illegal activity rape is present, the user in question provides no instructional information or intent to commit the illegal activity. Rath
er, the content appears to be hyperbole. As such, we will be unable to take action at this time. If you become aware of future possible violations of LiveJournal's Terms of Service, please submit a new request so that we may handle the matter at that time.

Regards,
Scott
LiveJournal Abuse Team


What do you all think?


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Michelle
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posted 06 March 2005 07:37 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ha. Meanwhile, if I remember correctly, Audra's had her LJ account suspended in the past for publishing allegations of sexual assault on there. Or something like that.

Nice to see they have their priorities straight.


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Mandos
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posted 06 March 2005 07:38 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ugh. Technically, they might be very narrowly correct, but they are really splitting hairs on what constitutes intent and instruction. But then, LJ is not babble, and they may have a First Amendmenty prejudice towards giving speech the maximum-stretchy possible benefit of the doubt.
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Michelle
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posted 06 March 2005 07:39 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, I guess I can see where the guy flew in just under the wire.

Still:


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Agent 204
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posted 06 March 2005 07:40 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's pretty twisted. If the Abuse Team won't do anything based on your real concerns, then maybe it needs to be approached from another angle. They might be more inclined to take action if those whose pics were being used were to email them and ask that something be done about this unauthorized use of their copyright material.
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googlymoogly
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posted 06 March 2005 07:43 PM      Profile for googlymoogly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wonder if this asshole has to go out and actually rape someone before they'll take notice

Edited: I have submitted a response to the Abuse team of my own giving them a piece of my mind, and I'll let you know if they say anything interesting.

[ 06 March 2005: Message edited by: googlymoogly ]


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Anchoress
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posted 06 March 2005 07:55 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
gm, why don't you post the livejournal complaints email and we can *all* send a complaint? Maybe if they get enough, they'll reconsider.
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googlymoogly
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posted 06 March 2005 07:59 PM      Profile for googlymoogly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The form for reporting to the Abuse Team

You will need to know the user in question's lj username, which is "rapehamstor" (spelling error his, not mine). You also might want to copy and paste the respose I posted in my original post so they can reference to something. I found it in the globalfeminisms community.

Edited: Here's a link to where the abuse actually is: you'll need that too.

[ 06 March 2005: Message edited by: googlymoogly ]


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kuri
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posted 06 March 2005 08:16 PM      Profile for kuri   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What's also bothersome is how many people are commenting like it's nothing.

I'm wondering if they didn't send something to him? I looked at the journal in question and he only has 1 entry. Also the 'target' of that entry seems OK with being called rapeable, according to her comments: "I dare you" and "looks like I've made a new friend @_@". I wonder if he had others that were deleted?

I'm not sure there's enough documented evidence left to make them change their minds, but maybe I'm not looking hard enough.

This pretty much reinforces my decision never to post a recognizable picture of myself on my LJ.

Edited due to gm's post, which made mine redundant.

[ 06 March 2005: Message edited by: dokidoki ]


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googlymoogly
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posted 06 March 2005 08:18 PM      Profile for googlymoogly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The reason you can't see the other entries (and neither can I) is because they are protected, i.e. only people on his "friends" list can see them. His journal was created almost a year ago.
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googlymoogly
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posted 06 March 2005 08:20 PM      Profile for googlymoogly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think there's plenty of evidenceto suspend his journal at the very least; I mean, we're not talking about a criminal charge here.
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kuri
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posted 06 March 2005 08:20 PM      Profile for kuri   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ahh.. right. I should have suspected that. (re: the private entries)

[ 06 March 2005: Message edited by: dokidoki ]


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Anchoress
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posted 06 March 2005 08:28 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hmmm...

If the entries are private, this is where my feminist values butt up against my libertarian values, and in this case the libertarian in me wins. I won't be sending a letter to complain about a series of livejournal entries that are available to a limited audience, even if I think the content is objectionable.

I also don't feel comfortable protesting something I haven't seen with my own eyes.

I'm sorry I asked for the info, lol.


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googlymoogly
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posted 06 March 2005 08:30 PM      Profile for googlymoogly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You didn't click on the link to the entry, did you? That entry is public, otherwise I wouldn't be able to see it either.
Edited: I'm sorry I sent it to you then. This makes me way too angry.

[ 06 March 2005: Message edited by: googlymoogly ]


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googlymoogly
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posted 06 March 2005 09:43 PM      Profile for googlymoogly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This should please all you libertarians out there:

Their response to me:

Dear user,

Although we agree that the content in question is disturbing and in poor taste, it does not constitute a violation of the LiveJournal Terms of Service. The content posted is simply an opinion, and we allow the expression of a wide range of opinions on LiveJournal, as long as no explicit threats of physical harm are made against any particular group of people. The content in question discusses such violent acts in positive terms, but does not actively encourage others to commit these acts. As such, we will be unable to assist you.

If the content in question disturbs you, we respectfully suggest that you simply refrain from reading the journal.

Regards,

Scott


So basically, put up or shut up. Yet they have banned accounts that are racist, homophobic, etc. (i.e. an lj user whose name was something like "blackcock" or something like that was banned, yet they keep this up. I'm deleting my account.

[ 06 March 2005: Message edited by: googlymoogly ]


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Mandos
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posted 06 March 2005 09:47 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, that's what I thought. It's very hairsplitty. Like I said, LJ is not babble and what is considered "free speech" will be interpreted an order of magnitude more broadly there. Actively so. They have an interest in setting as small precedents as possible for policing.
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James
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posted 06 March 2005 10:01 PM      Profile for James        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Question : Why would it matter, here ? If another board fails to meet your expectations, seek your recourse there, or leave it.

This debate strikes me as making about as much sense as it would for someone to come here and say "they have a thread and poster over on FreekDom, it's totally offensive, yet they won't remove it.

Would that be a "babble" issue? What is the difference?


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googlymoogly
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posted 06 March 2005 10:35 PM      Profile for googlymoogly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jesus, I was just posting information, I know there are a lot of LJ users here on babble. And for your information James, I actually did seek recourse there.
So sorry I said anything...

And James, you'll also be happy to note that above, I stated that I was deleting my account, so I actually did leave!

[ 06 March 2005: Message edited by: googlymoogly ]


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Mandos
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posted 06 March 2005 10:44 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
LJ is not a board like FD and babble. It's a blog service of a sort. I think it's useful information.
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James
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posted 06 March 2005 10:50 PM      Profile for James        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Mandos:
LJ is not a board like FD and babble. It's a blog service of a sort. I think it's useful information.

Well, the distinction is lost on me, but I'll accept the point. I thought we had an unwritten but clear policy here against cross-posting or bringing disputes from other sites here. I was wondering about consistency.

[ 06 March 2005: Message edited by: James ]


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pogge
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posted 06 March 2005 10:52 PM      Profile for pogge   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Mandos:
LJ is not a board like FD and babble. It's a blog service of a sort.

It's exactly a blog service. The company behind it, Danga, was recently purchased by Six Apart, the publishers of Movable Type.


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googlymoogly
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posted 06 March 2005 10:56 PM      Profile for googlymoogly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't see a problem with it in either situation. I suppose it's a useful policy to prevent petty disputes from cluttering up the board here, but I don't see this as petty at all; I think it's relevant even to non-LJ users here who might be interested in an example of the apathy and the lack of understanding often exhibited by people in authority to allegations of harassment/discrimination, whatever. Yeah I know the people who respond to these complaints on LJ are not really major authority figures, but they do have a final say on disputes like these.
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Jesse Dignity
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posted 09 March 2005 12:43 AM      Profile for Jesse Dignity   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't really understand how listing the rape of specific (presumably unsympathetic) LJ users in your interests as "Rapehamstor" does here:

http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=rapehamstor

fails to violate the following portions of the TOS:

[quote="FAQ #107"]Comments, entries, journals and posts not permitted on LiveJournal include but are not limited to:

* Content created solely to harass another user
...
* Content that incites violence against an individual, ...[/quote]

---

I just don't get what makes LJ feel like they have to be really careful about not being unfair to complete assholes like this.


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Doug
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posted 09 March 2005 02:33 AM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think that his Interests list constitutes a threat of rape against the various individuals listed:

quote:
Interests:
26: RAPE, RAPING _fap_, RAPING ashi_moto, RAPING beanochavez, RAPING butterweasel, RAPING cheetofish, RAPING death_by_cancer, RAPING dgt, RAPING duffey....

This goes further than just giving the opinion that someone is rapeable or not - as yucky as that is.


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Michelle
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posted 09 March 2005 08:51 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh for heaven's sake.

FD is a special case because of all the cross-board flame wars that have happened in the past. Everyone who has been posting on babble for more than a month or two, or who knows the history between babble and FD KNOWS this. And even the FD thing isn't an actual written RULE on babble - it's not in the policy statement. It's just become a convention on here (and a damn good one, I think).

Posting about this thing about LiveJournal, however, is no different than posting any other offensive internet site or advertisement in order to get action to stop it. I think there is absolutely nothing wrong with googlymoogly posting this here in order to try to get some action.

You were just fine, googlymoogly, and I think most of us are glad you brought it to our attention.


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skdadl
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posted 09 March 2005 09:40 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That "interests" list -- which is one of the only links here that still works for me -- fairly curled my hair.

Hard to believe that the site managers would not recognize that list as threatening to specific individuals.


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Agent 204
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posted 09 March 2005 09:45 AM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No kidding. Evidently they don't care. By the sound of it, the only way they're likely to take action is if they're legally obligated to- which is why I made the suggestion about claiming copyright infringement above.
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posted 19 March 2005 02:37 PM      Profile for RAPEHAMSTOR   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
SO PRECIOUS
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skdadl
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posted 19 March 2005 02:38 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Uh oh.
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Hinterland
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posted 19 March 2005 02:46 PM      Profile for Hinterland        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeesh...Hey, PB, Lena, Swallow (and a couple of others, maybe)...Got your beads handy? Join me in this thread for the Rite of Exorcism.
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googlymoogly
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posted 19 March 2005 02:51 PM      Profile for googlymoogly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
ooo this is fun! Oh well, I'll get blamed anyway for starting the whole thing.
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audra trower williams
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posted 19 March 2005 04:02 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Search results for: 67.15.76.148


OrgName: Everyones Internet, Inc.
OrgID: EVRY
Address: 2600 Southwest Freeway
Address: Suite 500
City: Houston
StateProv: TX
PostalCode: 77098
Country: US

NetRange: 67.15.0.0 - 67.15.175.255
CIDR: 67.15.0.0/17, 67.15.128.0/19, 67.15.160.0/20
NetName: EVRY-BLK-15
NetHandle: NET-67-15-0-0-1
Parent: NET-67-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.EV1.NET
NameServer: NS2.EV1.NET
Comment:
RegDate: 2004-02-06
Updated: 2004-10-11

TechHandle: RW172-ARIN
TechName: Williams, Randy
TechPhone: +1-713-400-5400
TechEmail: [email protected]

OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE477-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: ABUSE
OrgAbusePhone: +1-713-400-5400
OrgAbuseEmail: [email protected]

OrgNOCHandle: NOC1445-ARIN
OrgNOCName: NOC
OrgNOCPhone: +1-713-400-5400
OrgNOCEmail: [email protected]

OrgTechHandle: RW172-ARIN
OrgTechName: Williams, Randy
OrgTechPhone: +1-713-400-5400
OrgTechEmail: [email protected]

OrgTechHandle: VST3-ARIN
OrgTechName: Stinson, Valarie
OrgTechPhone: +1-713-400-5400
OrgTechEmail: [email protected]


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writer
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posted 19 March 2005 09:33 PM      Profile for writer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And what do we do with the above information?
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Hinterland
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posted 19 March 2005 09:59 PM      Profile for Hinterland        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If CSIS and the RCMP are doing their jobs, nothing.
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audra trower williams
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posted 19 March 2005 10:05 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm not sure what we do with it. I just wanted to make it public, since he's such a creep. If any experts out there have any ideas (hi, Bacchus!), please let me know?
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Papal Bull
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posted 19 March 2005 10:06 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Hinterland:
Yeesh...Hey, PB, Lena, Swallow (and a couple of others, maybe)...Got your beads handy? Join me in this thread for the Rite of Exorcism.

Interestingly, I just set aside some money for a new rosary.


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Hinterland
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posted 19 March 2005 10:13 PM      Profile for Hinterland        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Go for Rosary 2.24 Gold. They really did clear up the problems they had in the beta.
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pogge
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posted 19 March 2005 10:25 PM      Profile for pogge   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Hinterland:
If CSIS and the RCMP are doing their jobs, nothing.

CSIS would have no interest in this unless you can demonstrate how this guy is a threat to national security.


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Papal Bull
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posted 19 March 2005 10:36 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Hinterland:
Go for Rosary 2.24 Gold. They really did clear up the problems they had in the beta.

Oh, I was actually going for Mozilla's Fireprayer Beads 2.0 Final Release.


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Hinterland
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quote:
CSIS would have no interest in this unless you can demonstrate how this guy is a threat to national security.

Don't you have a CSIS operative shadowing you? I thought everyone did.

quote:
Oh, I was actually going for Mozilla's Fireprayer Beads 2.0 Final Release.

Oh, God...an open source ecumenical. Just wait until you have support issues.


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pogge
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posted 19 March 2005 11:27 PM      Profile for pogge   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Hinterland:
Don't you have a CSIS operative shadowing you? I thought everyone did.

Oh, probably. But I am a threat to national security.

[To any representatives of intelligence and/or law enforcement agencies who may be reading: This post is humour. Any resemblance between this post and an actual threat to national security is unintended and entirely coincidental. Lighten up.]


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Heh. My operative sends me a Christmas card every year, along with a little gift...he calls it a Stalking Stuffer...

*chuckles sardonically*


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posted 20 March 2005 09:44 AM      Profile for kuri   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by writer:
And what do we do with the above information?

Perhaps the people directly affected, if they knew this information would be able to complain the ISP of the hamster in question.

I certainly don't see any hope for the live journal staff. They've dismissed every complaint ever sent it seems, despite their terms of service stating people cannot advocate hate. I complained to them about someone in an EU community referring to black Africans as "jungle trash" who need to "eliminated" for their own "development" and the Live Journal did not consider that to be an example of racial hate speech. So I don't know what is hate speech in their view. They even state categorically that multiple complaints have no more effect than a single one and discourage write-in campaigns by promising to act slower when they recieve multiple complaints. Hopefully, now that the audra's provided that information, it can be circulated the people directly effected and they can complain the ISP or whoever has the power to suspend his internet activities. I myself will not participate in any unmoderated communities on there because they'll just be ruined as the EU one was. Now the racist in question is the only one left posting there.


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writer
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posted 20 March 2005 09:53 AM      Profile for writer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Rapehamstor from rapesville posted to *this* board. I feel I can complain to his ISP, and others here might feel the same.

I'm just asking how to do it.


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kuri
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posted 20 March 2005 10:00 AM      Profile for kuri   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well in that case would you use these co-ordinates?

quote:
OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE477-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: ABUSE
OrgAbusePhone: +1-713-400-5400
OrgAbuseEmail: [email protected]

Maybe I'm missing something but doesn't that seem like an abuse complaint e-mail and phone number?

The reason I brought up those directly named in his journal is because they might be able to also contact their local police, especially if they are identified with a photograph. Since I'm not identified in that way, I doubt my local police would take such a complaint seriously.


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audra trower williams
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posted 20 March 2005 03:22 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
His IP is 67.15.76.148, his ISP is Everyone's Internet, their acceptable use policy is here. A list of clients they also work with is here.

It might be good to complain to the abuse department first ([email protected]), highlighting the ways this user has violated the Acceptable Use Policy (with specific references). If you still get no results, I'd keep writing, but start CC'ing some of their higher-profile clients on the emails in question. That usually gets a reaction.

[ 20 March 2005: Message edited by: audra trower williams ]


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