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bigcitygal
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posted 31 May 2007 03:10 AM      Profile for bigcitygal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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A Saudi Arabian prisoner has died in an apparent suicide at the US detention facility at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, the US military has said.

A statement by the US Southern Command said the inmate was found unresponsive and not breathing by guards, and attempts to revive him failed.

Two Saudis and a Yemeni prisoner were found hanged in an apparent suicide at the camp in June last year.

There are about 380 prisoners at the camp, some held for five years.


Link to the very short BBC story here

Commentary on this report:

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first off, what’s up with the scare quotes around “kills himself”–i ask because the u.s. government has been particularly vehement about repositioning “suicide” as “terrorist actions” (as in, committing suicide is not a sign of depression and as such, an indicator of the horrible evilness that is guantanamo, but rather a continuation of the terrorist mentality that got the person imprisoned to begin with) and i’m wondering if ‘kills himself” will eventually be reworked to reflect the u.s. government strategy.

second–why does this particular peice of ‘breaking news’ seem like it’s going to die off really quickly? it’s not even front page news at bbc–OR front page news in the “americas” section.

and lastly–i realize that headlines are hard to come by some times–but there is just something patently wrong to me with the man in question being called a “guantanamo saudi”. as if his nationality has been overwritten to such an extent he’s no longer a saudi, he’s a *guantanamo* saudi. he’s a forced citizen of a new nation/state.



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unionist
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posted 31 May 2007 03:20 AM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think the scare quotes around "kills himself" are very appropriate.

If anyone else kidnaps a person and holds them without legal authority - and the person ends up dead - it's called murder.


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Stockholm
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posted 31 May 2007 08:57 AM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
second–why does this particular peice of ‘breaking news’ seem like it’s going to die off really quickly? it’s not even front page news at bbc–OR front page news in the “americas” section.


Because it's only one person and whether we like it or not - there usually have to be multiple deaths for something like this to have legs. When a private plane crashes with one person aboard - it ends up on p. 8. When a jumbo jet crashes with 350 people aboard - its a bigger story.


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posted 07 June 2007 04:38 AM      Profile for Dead_Letter     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That, and this is hardly surprising. I don't know if I could take languishing in Guantanamo for five years either.

[ 07 June 2007: Message edited by: Dead_Letter ]


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posted 07 June 2007 11:55 AM      Profile for kropotkin1951   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not only for five years but also to hear that even if aquitted the US says it will still not release you. What hope in life would be left?
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Phonz
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posted 07 June 2007 12:20 PM      Profile for Phonz        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by kropotkin1951:
What hope in life would be left?

The hope for a new U.S. president and a glimmer of sanity returning.


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posted 07 June 2007 11:06 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The South Africans had to fillout paperwork and state how each black prisoner died at the hands of fascist guards and police. "Fell out of a window" was a favourite of both the apartheid police as well as the CIA. "Fell in shower" was another, and then there was old reliable excuse, "died while resisting arrest" aka shot to death or tortured to death after trying to escape.

[ 07 June 2007: Message edited by: Fidel ]


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posted 07 June 2007 11:08 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Dead_Letter:
That, and this is hardly surprising. I don't know if I could take languishing in Guantanamo for five years either.

[ 07 June 2007: Message edited by: Dead_Letter ]


I'm sure they'd kill me for trying to escape. I'd make the buggers eyes water first though.


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