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farnival
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posted 18 June 2007 09:23 AM      Profile for farnival     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Conservatives roll out high-octane strategy to attract middle class

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"NASCAR is very popular in my riding," said Ms. Finley, who represents Haldimand-Norfolk in southwestern Ontario. This is a way for the Conservatives to tap into that growing following, she explained.

"It's getting harder and harder to reach people through the regular media. Fewer people are watching the network news ... fewer people are reading the newspapers," the Immigration Minister said.

"So we have to find new advertising outlets to reach them, to get our message through. And the people who follow NASCAR are our kind of people. They're hard-working families, they're taxpayers who play by the rules. And those are the people that we're targeting."

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...However, the aim, she said, is to dispel a misconception that the Conservatives are after an "elitist, Bay Street crowd. We're not...."



what can i say about this? wooooooooo. too bad we don't have a googly eyed smiley with a propeller beanie. haha.

"our kind of people" eh? beer drinkin, tabacky chewin', gas guzzlin', ass grabbin' good ole boys and thier ole ladies. yee haw. bring it on Opposition, we gots our enviro strategy rahht heare. come on ya wimps!

like i said. woooo.


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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 18 June 2007 09:41 AM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Did you catch whose car it is? Step forward Pierre Bourque, the pay-for-headline-never-broke-a-story internet news guy.
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farnival
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posted 18 June 2007 09:45 AM      Profile for farnival     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
haha, that's awesome scott! seriously? who is advising these turkeys? war, oilsands, sueing their own, NASCAR...wow, that'll break out of their 30% base.
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posted 18 June 2007 09:48 AM      Profile for writer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
... And when the car stalls ... or crashes ... or hits another car ...
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posted 18 June 2007 09:49 AM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Sounds like Harper's back room hacks have been spending a bit too much time reading the GOP playbook for winning states like Virginia and North Carolina. The popularity of Nascar in Canada is infintesimal compared to the American south.
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posted 18 June 2007 09:57 AM      Profile for writer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
It's like Stockwell Day's seadoo episode. Only stupider. And more dangerous.
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posted 18 June 2007 10:24 AM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by writer:
It's like Stockwell Day's seadoo episode. Only stupider. And more dangerous.

Attention, Photo Shop experts!


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remind
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posted 18 June 2007 11:34 AM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by Stockholm:
Sounds like Harper's back room hacks have been spending a bit too much time reading the GOP playbook...The popularity of Nascar in Canada is infintesimal compared to the American south.

Actually it is growing in Canada, and has a solid 20-40 year old demographic supporting it. Nor are the devotees to Nascar a phenomena of the southern states.

What is even more interesting in this Nascar demographic is that they are developing a "religious" undertone/overtone. They have developed prayer networks even.


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posted 18 June 2007 11:52 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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It's getting harder and harder to reach people through the regular media. Fewer people are watching the network news ... fewer people are reading the newspapers," the Immigration Minister said.

Some observers might conclude that a lot of people are tired of corporate propaganda and would rather be entertained than brainwashed.

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Conservative insiders have been saying for several months that the party strategy is to go after the large number of Canadians who consider themselves middle class.

Conservatives are forever trying to undermine working class solidarity. They consider it their duty.

Middle class is middle of what, again? Marketing. Brand bullies. These things are all that's holding capitalism together.


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Stockholm
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posted 18 June 2007 12:45 PM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
A while ago, i kept arguing with people here about whether or not the Conservatives had any hope of winning such old-money silk-stocking districts as Vancouver-Quadra.

You may recall, that I said at the time that the Tories have basically given up on trying to win back the Rosedale/Shaughessy vote. They are putting all their energy into going after people who watch NASCAR and drink at Tim Horton's - the burghers of Vancouver-Quadra will be shuddering at the thought!


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posted 18 June 2007 01:09 PM      Profile for Steppenwolf Allende     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Conservatives are forever trying to undermine working class solidarity. They consider it their duty.

Yes, they and the Liberals are just as bad on this.

The truth of course is, to a fairly large degree, things like NASCAR are generally a big hit with the working class, and can be fertile ground for some left populism--the kind the NDP/CCF used to be very much into.

I remember my favourite anarchist politician, Nelson-Creston NDP MLA Corky Evans, using his stock car racing hobby as part of his campaign (sponsored by a whole bunch of folks from the labour and co-op movements, environmentalists, hippie artisans and communards, etc.).

SO it looks like the Cons are trying to tap some of this with right-wing pseudo-populism that the old Reform Party was good at putting forward.

Hard to make it work though. Large numbers, perhaps even a majority, of working class Canadians, including the rednecks, quite appropriately see the Conservatives as chained to the halls of corporate wealth and power and all the snobbery that goes with it.

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Middle class is middle of what, again? Marketing. Brand bullies. These things are all that's holding capitalism together.

"Middle class" is basically a media/government induced political culture that took off after WWII, so working class people, especially if they were in the professional or self-employed strata, could see themselves as somehow better off, or more established, than what they were before, or unlike "the rest" of the working class.

It later started to graft itself on to the more successful sectors of the labour movement.

Today, it seems we're supposed to accept the idea that pretty much most of the working class is "middle class," and the only people left out are the destitute poor, unemployed, disabled, mentally ill, etc, and other "marginalized" people.

And sadly, many progressive and democratic elements have succumbed to this. That’s why we see many NDP leaders talking about “defending Middle Class values,” like social safety net, Medicare, public education, collective bargaining, human rights and other democratic legislation and environmental protection—definitely all good things, for sure.

But the historic fact that these were reforms to the capitalist system enacted in response to the rise of socialism and the demands of the working class and its social and labour movements for change. If we now want to call these victories “defending Middle Class values,” that’s fine. But if we forget the historic and economic facts of the democratic struggles and the movements that won us these rights and living standards, then we’re bound to start losing them—with, of course, is exactly what’s been happening over the last 25 years or so.


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FraserValleyMan
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posted 18 June 2007 08:57 PM      Profile for FraserValleyMan        Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Stockholm:
A while ago, i kept arguing with people here about whether or not the Conservatives had any hope of winning such old-money silk-stocking districts as Vancouver-Quadra.

You may recall, that I said at the time that the Tories have basically given up on trying to win back the Rosedale/Shaughessy vote. They are putting all their energy into going after people who watch NASCAR and drink at Tim Horton's - the burghers of Vancouver-Quadra will be shuddering at the thought!


In Vancouver there's been a discussion for several years about the downtown Indi races, sponsored I think by Molson's. A lot of noise for a few days. The old money types in Shaughnessy can definitely hear the racket, but they don't seem to be particularly upset, ... probably because they are up the coast in their yatchs! If the noise disturbs the servants, ... well, that's what we pay them for!


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terra1st
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posted 19 June 2007 04:48 AM      Profile for terra1st     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Actually, when I saw this I thought it was briliant. The Nascar circut is their base, and quite a number of people who would be easily converted to the CPC. Add to this the rodeo circut, the prayer groups, and the support our troops bit, and they will have mobilized/strengthened their base.

Watch for methods to further broaden their support in the next 6-12 months. Remember how during the last election a conservative stategist came up with 12 templates for personality types of canadians? They only had to convert a few of them to win the election, so they targeted them? This is just a continuation of that strategy.

I do hope the NDP are working on this strategy from the people we can convert. It's damn smart.conservative election strategy 2006


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posted 19 June 2007 05:09 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
This must be the new Conservative environmental strategy. Distract 'em with fast cars, odes to Jay-sus, and women in tight t-shirts. Develop some brand loyalty to the car owners. Let's feel good about our gas-guzzlers! Who gives a shit about the future of the planet, anyway! Did you see the rack on that one? etc.

It reminds me of the joke about the guy falling from a 10-story building. "Good so far," he's overheard saying on the way by the 9th floor. "Good so far," he says on the way by the 8th floor. And so on.

But anyone with a brain in their head knows there's a sudden stop at the end. Conservative strategy revolves around helping people to forget that sudden stop.


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Doug
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posted 19 June 2007 10:38 AM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
It'll be amusing if their car hits a wall or something.

Anyway - not a bad strategy on their part, but oddly defensive for people who are supposed to be working toward a majority government.


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Phonz
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posted 19 June 2007 10:44 AM      Profile for Phonz        Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by FraserValleyMan:
In Vancouver there's been a discussion for several years about the downtown Indi races, sponsored I think by Molson's. A lot of noise for a few days. The old money types in Shaughnessy can definitely hear the racket, but they don't seem to be particularly upset, ... probably because they are up the coast in their yatchs! If the noise disturbs the servants, ... well, that's what we pay them for!

The Molson Indy died years ago.

ETA: And I trust we are not going to compare Formula One racing with stock cars.

[ 19 June 2007: Message edited by: Phonz ]


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