However, Karl Rove has made sure that she, mostly, keeps her differences with Bush VERY VERY PRIVATE...

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Originally posted by kurichina:
I don't think anyone should care about Laura Bush one way or another. I find the whole idea of First Ladies ridiculous. It's like electing a King and Queen. No one should gain influence solely on who they marry.

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Originally posted by A longsuffering conservative:

No disrespect intended to Mrs. Bush, but I somehow doubt that she is on the pill.

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Both George and Laura used to go down to the island of Tortola in the British Virgin Islands to visit Laura’s college roommate Jane Clark and her boyfriend, the former baseball great Sandy Koufax. Elsewhere on the island, the Bushes used to attend and enjoy heavy pot-smoking parties. This was not inconsistent with Laura’s past. She graduated from Southern Methodist University in 1968 and had been known in her college days as a go-to girl for dime bags of marijuana. “She not only smoked dope,” said public relations executive Robert Nash, an Austin friend of many in Laura’s SMU class, “but she sold dope.”

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Originally posted by Boom Boom:
Wish those across the border would hurry up and elect a woman Prez so we'd have a First Man or First Gent . Just so long as the Prez is not Hillary or Condi.

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she reminds me of a stepford wife.

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Originally posted by Bobolink:
Although one has to admire Arlene Chretien for using and Inuit soapstone carving to cold-cock an intruder at 24 Sussex Drive.

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The point I am trying to make is that we cannot expect our bedmates to share all of our goals and aspirations. Frankly, I don't see anything appealing in the character of George W. Bush. But then again, I'm not Laura Bush.

The media usually, raises scandal when it is learned that a spouse of a politician has differing viewpoints from that politician. Most political spouses just learn to keep their mouths shut. This doesn't always help them. The IRA tried to murder Dennis Thatcher to strike at his wife.

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The two of them were willing to smarm on TV about how important the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq would be to the women of those two countries.

Had either one of them bothered to talk to RAWA, eg, or to any Iraqi women's organization?

Are they evil, or just conventionally too-comfortable-to-be-well-informed? One or the other. Neither alternative looks attractive to me.

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Yes Stargazer, but would you give a potential date a checklist to see if that person is politically correct? On how many points would that person have to agree? Should your date be a cypher for yourself?

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Bobo, you have got to be kidding right? Please!!! And hell yes I check to see if the person I am or may become deeply involved with is a right wing nutbar or has vastly different views from my own. For gripes sake, why the hell would I want to be involved with someone whose views I find distressing at best, and replusive at worst? I am not sorry that I apply criteria to those I plan to spend time with and get emotionally and physically involved with.

I cut Laura Bush zero slack. I do not have the same opinion, that standing by your man, no matter how replusive he is, is the right thing to do. If I was married to someone I found out through actions, deeds, and words, to be a murderous person with low intellect, no comapssion and a need for bloodlust his ass (or mine) would be out the door.

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Why should we care about them? Remind me?

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Because they use their position to make money, and sometimes illegitimately use government money to do this. (or so it's alleged that Cherie did this)

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Originally posted by skdadl:

"Are you in favour of trashing international law in order to authorize torture?" would, yes, kinda be a breaking-point for me.

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when i was 13, and read "the day of the jackal" by frederick forsythe (sp?), for a couple of years, i thought it would be quite interesitng and exciting to be married to an assasin. well, actually, not married, but to have a relationship with one since i never gave a hoot for the institution of marriage. that was before i realized that assassins just work for money, and usually have few political opinions of their own.

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ephemeral, that is too funny. Did you also see the movie? I certainly know what it is like to have a mad crush on Edward Fox.

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Weren't you a li'l worried about how he could snap a lady's neck while kissing her?

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Originally posted by skdadl:
Had either one of them bothered to talk to RAWA, eg, or to any Iraqi women's organization?

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I'm sure Laura and Cherie met "real" Afghan and Iraqi women of the same ilk as those to whom "the boys" were talking -- Karzai and Chalabi. When planning an invasion, one must always speak to the well heeled, elite exiled crowd. After all, it worked so well for the States with respect to Cuba circa the '60's.

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Originally posted by skdadl:
Weren't you a li'l worried about how he could snap a lady's neck while kissing her?

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Except Edward Fox is better. When he let go that pretty lady, she was daid!

ephemeral, you must rent the movie. It is brilliant. When I'm watching it, my heart races, even though I've seen it a dozen times.

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Originally posted by siren:

I'm sure Laura and Cherie met "real" Afghan and Iraqi women of the same ilk as those to whom "the boys" were talking -- Karzai and Chalabi. When planning an invasion, one must always speak to the well heeled, elite exiled crowd. After all, it worked so well for the States with respect to Cuba circa the '60's.

I think "talking to the elite exiles" may have been how Martin got us so horribly involved in Haiti. The wealthy are different than the rest of us -- they have different friends.

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Originally posted by A longsuffering conservative:
I vote for number two. The president has acknowleged publicly that he and Laura do not see eye to eye on many issues.

However, Karl Rove has made sure that she, mostly, keeps her differences with Bush VERY VERY PRIVATE...

(Too bad Karl can't coach Anne Colter. She is definitely a work in progress but I digress.)

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With respect to Ann Colter, I happened to stumble upon this website--I suspect that it's a gag, but it's still hilarious....

skdadl, i'll remember to rent the movie when i can get my hands on a tv. i do have a vcr though. must rent the godfather too, ent seen that one either.

speakin' of movies, - detraction from laura bush - i would really be interested in starting a rabble movie club (once i have a tv). i would like the club to watch activist type movies - like thirst, haiti-killing the dream, corporation, supersize me, micheal moore's movies, etc... except i don't know how easy/difficult it would be for rabblers to get these movies. i don't think places like blockbuster's, jumbo video, etc. carry many movies like this. any ideas/suggestions? perhaps i oughta start this in a new thread.