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Michelle
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posted 03 June 2007 05:26 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Where to even start...?

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NOWHERE in the United States Constitution is there any mention of Miss U.S.A. She has no authority to declare war. She does not build border walls or round up undocumented immigrants. Those things are left to others, none of whom wear a sash.

But that fact seemed to get lost during the recent Miss Universe pageant, when Mexicans greeted Rachel Smith, Miss U.S.A., with one chorus after another of boos. Pageant officials said Ms. Smith, 22, was rattled by the denunciations, which echoed other booing she had received during her monthlong stay in Mexico, notably when she showed off a sleek, white Elvis outfit as her national costume on a runway on one of Mexico City’s grand avenues.

On pageant night, the wrath continued. As Ms. Smith was chosen for the final five, despite an awful fall in her evening dress, the crowd grew more boisterous, especially because Miss Mexico, Rosa María Ojeda Cuen, had been eliminated. Donald Trump, who owns the pageant, said he was nervous the audience might storm the stage. “The level of hostility was amazing,” he said, comparing it to the fury on display at the end of a disputed prizefight.

Mario López, the TV actor who was the show’s host, did his best to calm the crowd during a commercial break. “I said in Spanish: ‘Hey, listen, Mexico, the world is watching. Let’s show the world we’re really good hosts,’ ” he recalled.

The problem was that this was no simple matter of bad manners toward a guest, but an upwelling of a national angst, many Mexicans will tell you.



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unionist
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posted 03 June 2007 05:43 AM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree with the mob. It shoulda been "Ms. USA".
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Michelle
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posted 03 June 2007 05:48 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well geez. That's just it. Where do you start with a story like this? Do you start by talking about how stupid and sexist "Miss Universe" is to begin with? Do you wonder what the hell people all over the world are doing supporting this stupid American cultural export anyhow? Do you think, wow, they're targeting a woman who, along with all the other women in the contest, are paid to come across as so fucking braindead that their views on international affairs can be boiled down to, "I want to thank God for my being here, and I just really, really want World Peace"?

Or, do you say to yourself, well, what do Americans expect when they've been targeting Mexicans, and that any popular venue will do to vent outrage?


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Atavist
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posted 03 June 2007 06:47 AM      Profile for Atavist   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hmmm...I think that they were just booing USA, period. Miss USA is just seen as a symbol, period. People like to have the legitimate object of criticism (the Booshbag, of course)in front of them, but at such times when this cannot happen, a surrogate is often deemed acceptable.

Mexicans have also had a pretty tough year. The stealing of an election victory from people's champion Jose Maria Obrador by Filipe Calderon ( love the way Mexicans have contracted his name to Fe-Cal!), who is seen (along with Vincente Fox) as merely an extension of US foreign policy into Mexico, problems with US Border officials, tightening up of US visitation laws by DHS, the scapegoating of Mexico in the illegal immigration debate (when it's the employers of illegal labour they should be going after), the fact that they lose more and more of their best and brightest to the USA every year...

It wasn't a particularly classy point in US-Mexican relations, but I can certainly understand it...


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redflag
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posted 03 June 2007 02:02 PM      Profile for redflag     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Perhaps they should have traded in their boos for "Yankee go home?"
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Jacob Two-Two
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posted 03 June 2007 02:29 PM      Profile for Jacob Two-Two     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
hopefully, they'll find a better outlet for their rage, but even something as dumb as this can serve to remind people that the rage is there, is widespread, and they are not alone in feeling it.
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Briguy
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posted 04 June 2007 04:04 AM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I would probably boo this outfit, too:


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Bobby Peru
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posted 04 June 2007 04:18 AM      Profile for Bobby Peru     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Mexicans in the audience can boo all they want but thousands cross the Rio Grande and Mex-Cali border each year in search of a better life in the good ol' USA. Mexico's internal problems are of its own making not due to the gringos.

And yes, Mexico's best and brightest flee, too, because of the rampant lawlessness and kidnapping all over Mexico. Ultimately people vote or 'boo' with their feet. I don't see a stampede of illegal immigrants flowing from the US into Mexico.


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Stargazer
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posted 04 June 2007 04:26 AM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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The Mexicans in the audience can boo all they want but thousands cross the Rio Grande and Mex-Cali border each year in search of a better life in the good ol' USA. Mexico's internal problems are of its own making not due to the gringos.
And yes, Mexico's best and brightest flee, too, because of the rampant lawlessness and kidnapping all over Mexico. Ultimately people vote or 'boo' with their feet. I don't see a stampede of illegal immigrants flowing from the US into Mexico.


I see they are out in full force today. I'll save this quote for the mods.


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oldgoat
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posted 04 June 2007 06:02 AM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bobby Peru, your post is getting into the area of soft and not really so soft racism. I've done a quick sampling of previous posts and concluded that you seem to think you've wandered into a CPC meeting, or maybe even a gathering of Rand cultists. Clearly, this is not the board for you. Bye.
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N.Beltov
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posted 04 June 2007 08:03 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Bobby Peru: Mexico's internal problems are of its own making not due to the gringos.

You might want to look up "maquilladora" and ask yourself why all these horrific plants exist right near the US border and not closer to larger Mexican population centres where the people are.

On your way out the door, I mean.

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A maquiladora or maquila is a factory that imports materials and equipment on a duty-free and tariff-free basis for assembly or manufacturing and then re-exports the assembled product, usually back to the originating country.

"Maquiladora" is primarily used to refer to factories in Mexican towns along the United States–Mexico border, but increasingly is used to refer to factories all over Latin America. Maquiladora factories encompass a variety of industries including electronics, transportation, textile, and machinery, among others. Maquiladoras may be 100% foreign-owned (usually by U.S. companies) in most countries. The use of maquiladoras is an example of offshoring. Other countries such as Japan, Germany, and Korea have maquiladoras as well, but the majority of them are located in Mexico and are associated with United States' companies.


Maquilladoras are notorious for horrific working conditions, violations of the most basic standards of work and human rights, and prison-like conditions. Apparently the gringos have quite an influence on the development of internal Mexican industry and associated problems.

[ 04 June 2007: Message edited by: N.Beltov ]


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Jacob Two-Two
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posted 04 June 2007 08:35 AM      Profile for Jacob Two-Two     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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The Mexicans in the audience can boo all they want but thousands cross the Rio Grande and Mex-Cali border each year in search of a better life in the good ol' USA.

Yes, and any ambitious peasant hopes to get a position in the castle, so maybe monarchy wasn't so bad after all, eh?

What's hilarious is that you are describing the very power imbalance that they are objecting to, and somehow concluding that there isn't any power imbalance. Ah, the funny world of apologists.


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The Wizard of Socialism
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posted 04 June 2007 09:26 AM      Profile for The Wizard of Socialism   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's too bad Spanish is such a nice sounding language. Maquiladora has a very pleasant sound to it. Like a holiday villa, or somthing hot and tasty to eat smothered in sour creme - instead of a manufacturing hell on earth.

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trippie
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posted 04 June 2007 09:22 PM      Profile for trippie        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
personaly I thing the Mexican politicians should be the ones taking the biggest interest in what happened taht night.

Frustration shows up in many ways ....

Eventually these people will want justice in their lives.

Also this is a clue to all of us here in Canada.. The frustrations we feel are also felt in Mexico. We need a united workers party that can deliver the relef we want an deserve...


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