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Rat lander
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posted 06 June 2005 03:53 PM      Profile for Rat lander     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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President Robert Mugabe's onslaught against Zimbabwe's cities has escalated to claim new targets, with white-owned factories and family homes being demolished in a campaign that has left 200,000 people homeless. Across the country, Mr Mugabe is destroying large areas of heaving townships and prosperous industrial areas alike. Virtually all the areas demolished voted for the opposition MDC Party in the last elections. The aim of this brutal campaign is, says the official media, to depopulate urban areas and force people back to the "rural home".

'Rural home'. Same plan the Khmer Rouge used in Cambodia.

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Hundreds of girls as young as 12 are being raped or forcibly kept as concubines in rural Zimbabwe by President Robert Mugabe's youth militia as part of a campaign that human-rights lawyers have branded "systematic political cleansing" of the population.

"They are raping on a massive scale," said Frances Lovemore, a counsellor at the Harare-based Amani Trust which monitors torture. "Girls as young as 12 or 13 are being systematically taken and used and abused because of their families' political views."

http://www.rense.com/general28/amms.htm

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Rufus Polson
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posted 06 June 2005 05:11 PM      Profile for Rufus Polson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Uh, I can't find the supposed actual Telegraph article saying this. And the link only has the second quoted selection in it, not the first. Are there actually 200,000 whites still in Zimbabwe? Were there ever? (Actually, I see the paragraph is somewhat ambiguous about just who's being displaced)

I'd have a little bit more confidence in this stuff if the link were to an actual newspaper article rather than to an article claiming to be a copyright violation of a newspaper article. Although, given the way the press has been handling Zimbabwe, perhaps not that much confidence. Does Amnesty International have anything to say?

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posted 06 June 2005 05:31 PM      Profile for pogge   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The second quote comes from a story that's three years old. I can't find a source for the first quote but I assume that's the one that mentions the rock stars.
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Rufus Polson
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posted 06 June 2005 06:08 PM      Profile for Rufus Polson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That said, googling some I am finding some rather extensive mentions of some pretty bad stuff going down in Zimbabwe, including some left sources. There are a few mentions of the 200,000 figure although no real substantiation. I don't see generally any indications that whites are particularly involved this time, though.

Apparently, the government's trashing the shantytowns and informal markets, which means demolishing a helluvalotta homes and small businesses of people who have nowhere to go. Why is unclear; the official line seems to be very much like the sort of thing "law 'n' order" crackdowns, not to mention quite a lot of money-motivated "urban renewal" operations, always say. Many commentators, particularly the political opposition, say it's political payback because the cities generally voted against Mugabe. One group I saw figured it was tipping a wink to international capital that Mugabe was on side again and prepared to follow orders.

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posted 06 June 2005 10:48 PM      Profile for Rat lander     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ahhh, so it's all the capitalist's fault.

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posted 07 June 2005 01:26 AM      Profile for NDP Newbie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
...The opposition is left-of-centre anyways, and they're not ruled by Stalinist gimps that slaughter homosexuals and randomly relocate people.
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Rufus Polson
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posted 08 June 2005 03:39 PM      Profile for Rufus Polson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sheesh. I didn't put forward an opinion. I said that some sources opined x and one source suggested y.
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