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Briguy
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posted 07 October 2004 12:45 PM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fight to the finish in final days of Australia poll

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The latest Newspoll yesterday predicted a repeat of 2001's down-to-the-wire result, showing the Liberal-National coalition taking 50.5% of the vote against 49.5% for the Labor opposition.

But a Roy Morgan poll carried out over the same period had Labor on 51.5%, 3% ahead of the government. As with most polling in recent weeks, both results fall within the 3% margin of error.


As an Aussie friend of mine relayed, I hope Howard gets his arse-licking self booted out of there. Unfortunately, the race looks to close to call right now.


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Michelle
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posted 07 October 2004 12:46 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just going to move this to "the rest of the world" forum...
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Briguy
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posted 07 October 2004 01:00 PM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Nnnnooooo! Purgatory!
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robbie_dee
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posted 08 October 2004 01:56 PM      Profile for robbie_dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The most recent poll before tommorrow's election shows Howard and the Liberals pulling ahead 54% - 46%.

Link: Poll Tips Fourth Term for PM (The Age)

I have got to say that is a pretty disappointing number. I don't see how anyone could vote for Howard's Liberals in light of the Iraq mess. But, of course, I don't see how anyone could vote for Bush, Blair, or Stephen Harper either.

[ 08 October 2004: Message edited by: robbie_dee ]


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Agent 204
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posted 08 October 2004 02:31 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Given that Australia uses IRV, and the poll is based on primary votes, how much does this really tell us? Based on what I know about the Greens and the Democrats, I'd expect most of their supporters to give their second preferences to Labour rather than the Liberals or Nationals. The poll doesn't seem to say how these parties are doing, so I'm not sure how meaningful this is. Anyone been following this more closely?
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Stockholm
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posted 08 October 2004 09:54 PM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
All polls in Australia show two sets of numbers "primary voting" where you get the first preferences for ALP, Libs, national Party, Greens etc..., but then the pollsters always ask for the second preferences of supporters of the smaller parties and and that is how they get a "two party preferred" vote of 54-46 (though another final poll has Labour ahead on two party preferrred by 52-48).

Iraq has been a minor issue in that election. Australia has very few troops in Iraq and has had no deaths. Its an election being fought on domestic issues and the fact is Australia is doing quite well economically and so swing votwers may feel "why rock the boat".


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Agent 204
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posted 09 October 2004 12:39 AM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for the info.
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Cougyr
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posted 09 October 2004 01:16 PM      Profile for Cougyr     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Looks like Howard won again.
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Screaming Lord Byron
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posted 09 October 2004 01:41 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's it. Given Howard's fourth win in Australia and our flooding the US with scary socialist drugs, we are now officially the cool one of the old imperial nations.
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Briguy
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posted 09 October 2004 01:46 PM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Crapity crap crap crap.
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Pellaken1
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posted 09 October 2004 02:13 PM      Profile for Pellaken1     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I watched the election on livestream from ABC. It was obvious right from the start that the Liberals had the edge, and polls had been saying that for a while.
I'd be interested to see what happens in the senate and if the FFP can hold the balance of power for the Coalition.

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posted 09 October 2004 03:58 PM      Profile for NDP Newbie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Somebody else mentioned that neo-Nazis may control the Senate.

I'd rather a Coalition majority.


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Agent 204
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posted 09 October 2004 05:11 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This article says that the Coalition is likely to control the Senate, though they might need to call on the support of the "Family First" party. Not neo-Nazis per se, but not a good thing.
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