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Nocturnal Goddess
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posted 22 December 2005 02:57 AM      Profile for Nocturnal Goddess        Edit/Delete Post
I'm really disturbed by the "poor us, we hate men, men suck, lets all talk about how much men totally suck until they learn to stay underground and emerge for breeding purposes only! they world would be much better off!" that goes on in some areas of "feminism".

What ever happened to judging a person based on their merits, not their sex or gender?

For example, why only focus on violence against women, rather than focusing on the big picture. There's a lot more to demestic abuse than "man= bad and evil, 'womyn'= good and pure". Why is a slap considered "ok" just because it's less violent than other abuse? Why are people who stand up and say "Yes, it's wrong for a man to beat a woman, and that needs to stop. But it's still not right if a woman slaps her husband." Why are they suddenly mysogenist pigs just because they point out that violence is never, EVER acceptable in any way. I'm not seeing how saying "Well, let's focus on the big picture and get rid of the entire plague of violence" translates to "we don't care if women get beat, just don't hit men".

Why are so many real-life stories dismissed as "anecdotal" when proof is requested? I have an ex-friend, I'll call her "Tara", who was just wretched to her boyfriend "Derik". She would slap him, punch him (now, this girl is 6' and he was 5'8''... this was DEFINATLY not a case of a small woman lightly slapping her much bigger boyfriend), and scream at him. He'd sit there, totally calm, just pleading "Tara, please, stop." Before you go "well she must have been driven to it" the reasons for the beating were generally among the following:
~He was schedualed to work on the opening day of a movie she really wanted him to take her to see, and she didn't want to see it later that night
~He told a corny knock-knock joke ('knock knock' 'who's there?' 'banana'... that one)
~He accidently locked his keys in his car
~He had a headcold and was blowing his nose too much, which was "gross"
Once, the three of us were in the car, on our way to the mall, when she punched him so hard in the jaw that his glasses flew off, he lost control of the steering wheel, and we nearly hit an on-coming car. He sure deserved it for cancelling their weekend's date to help his mom out around the house. Is that kind of bs ok simply because it's not as common? Or, as I am starting to suspect, is it ok simply because he's a man?

I have another question. Why are there so many radical feminists who are against sex? What is wrong with something both people enjoy, both people want, and both people share. I can appretiate being opposed to the common gender roles of "male, pusues sex" "female, provides sex to please male", but being opposed to sex itself? Does it really make me a bad femnist if I enjoy and act I have control over, and act that, in my relationship, is equally give and take?

I'm not trying to bate or flame, as many people seem ready to assume. I'm sure this automatic defensiveness comes from being trolled often, but know that I present these questions to you in good spirits.


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rsfarrell
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posted 22 December 2005 04:27 AM      Profile for rsfarrell        Edit/Delete Post
Supposedly a 19-year-old female, calls herself "Goddess" but every post (all ten of them) is critical of feminism or anti-feminist.

I call troll.


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Michelle
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posted 22 December 2005 05:24 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Me too.
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