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DrConway
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posted 27 December 2007 12:55 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"China Buys Wall Street"

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The subprime mortgage problem has now yielded a full-blown credit squeeze on Wall Street with securities firms' stock prices at fire-sale levels. The new fire-sale buyers are the so-called sovereign wealth funds, and China's are the most prominent.

With the world's largest trade surplus, China is accumulating foreign exchange reserves of about $1 billion per day. Rather than holding these reserves in low-paying Treasury securities, China recently created a new sovereign wealth fund--China Investment Company (CIC)--to invest these funds more profitably. Market participants, pay attention.


What's going to be screamingly funny is when the hypocritical Republican asshats all rear up on their hind legs and demand controls over capital flows on the grounds of national security.

I guess free enterprise is only good when white people do it.


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Fidel
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posted 27 December 2007 01:51 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I get the feeling that banks will try to sandwich billions of dollars worth of bad debt in between thinner layers of high quality debt, like car loans and mortgage refi's - and pawn that off to the suckers, I mean, the Chinese and whoever. It's dead, Jim - the financial system that is. We could see fangs fully exposed sometime during wholesale collapse of deregulated capitalism part deux. Or is it three or four?
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kropotkin1951
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posted 27 December 2007 01:53 PM      Profile for kropotkin1951   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Harper is already out front on this one with his proclamation that Chinese government corporations will be scrutinized to ensure that any acquisitions are beneficial to Canadian interests.

I would support that position if it included foreign corporations but apparently we have nothing to fear from American capitalists because they only control their government and never use government corporations to further their self interest.

State capitalism bad american corporate capitalism good. Must keep this in mind.


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Proaxiom
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posted 27 December 2007 05:21 PM      Profile for Proaxiom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If you substitute 'China' with 'Japan' this could almost have been written 20 years ago.
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Fidel
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posted 27 December 2007 05:47 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think that 20 years ago, the U.S. was the world's richest and most influential economy, and the U.S. was the most dangerous military power. Today they're the most dangerous military power.

Faced with technological and economic challenges from Germany and Japan in the 1980's, the U.S. invested in public research and developement and handed off certain technologies to private enterprise to spruce up American capitalism. The result was the personal computer revolution and economic boom in California's Silicon Valley. They've been trying to reproduce Silicon Valley around the U.S. and Canada since then.

But I think that today is different for the American economy in several ways. Today, it's not the Soviets who are over-extended in Afghanistan while world prices for oil are undercut by the Saudis as it was in 1986-87.


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brookmere
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posted 27 December 2007 09:33 PM      Profile for brookmere     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Fidel:
I get the feeling that banks will try to sandwich billions of dollars worth of bad debt in between thinner layers of high quality debt, like car loans and mortgage refi's - and pawn that off to the suckers, I mean, the Chinese and whoever.

"Will?". How do you think they've been funding the housing and consumer credit bubble for last 5 years?

The Chinese and others have finally gotten wise to this scam, which is why they are now buying US hard assets rather than debt.

Just say AAA


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Fidel
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posted 27 December 2007 09:53 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ah! I knew they'd be smarter than that.
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Fidel
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posted 28 December 2007 02:39 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A minor thread drift if we may...

Taiwan Closes Chiang Kai-Shek Mausoleum No more guards watching over the one-time western backed fascist dictator's remains.

All that economic "developement and political security" was probably paid for by the Bank of China and with imperial treasures they stole.


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