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Meow
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posted 29 November 2003 05:46 PM      Profile for Meow     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lets hope they go with rationality on this one:

Courts to examine state contraceptive laws


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jeff house
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posted 29 November 2003 09:08 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The article is worth reading.

In general, no one should be forced to communicate a conept in which they do not believe.

The Catholic Church doesn't believe in contraception, so it should not be forced to communicate anything about contraception.

But here, it has 100,000 employees, including non-Catholics. And it is not being forced to communicate a particular opinion about contraceptives, and whether they are good or evil, a sin or a sacrament.

They are being required to inform their employees of the existence of coverage for prescription contraceptives in state insurance policies.

I do not believe that fact is controversial. Rather, whether one should use contraceptives is controversial (to the church at least!).

So, I see nothing wrong with requiring that information to be included in employer-to- employee communications.


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skdadl
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posted 30 November 2003 10:51 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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An attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union (news - web sites) argued that siding with the Catholics would, in essence, impose the church's doctrine on thousands of non-Catholic women who work at the church's hospitals or social-service agencies.

I see that logic and agree with it.

I wonder, though, whether some USian churches have not endangered their own religious freedoms by collaborating with the president's enthusiasm for fuzzing the constitutionally mandated separation of church and state, through his willingness to allow faith-based groups to deliver basic social services.

The separation of church and state was meant to protect independence and freedom on both sides.


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clearview
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posted 30 November 2003 10:58 AM      Profile for clearview     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Could the Catholic Church be forced to not communicate a concept they do believe in? Specifically, I can just see some administrator, when advising of the existence of the contraceptive coverage in the health insurance, also advising against using that particular part of the health insurance. If this happens, could it be something that the courts force them to stop doing?
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Michelle
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posted 30 November 2003 02:43 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, will employees who use the coverage, if they win the right to have the coverage, be discriminated against?

In any case, wouldn't it be nice if the Catholic Church could come out of the Dark Ages on even just this particular subject? I mean, heck, even the Southern Baptist Convention, backwards as they are, allow birth control. For heaven's sake.


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