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a lonely worker
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posted 18 January 2007 10:19 PM      Profile for a lonely worker     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No surprises here but still chilling none the less:

CNN's report of "kill Castro" controversy

She's now saying the comment was taken out of context, but thanks to youtube her entire comments can be heard here:

Ros-Lehtinen's comments

More proof of a rogue nation out of control.


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posted 18 January 2007 11:46 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Muchos gracias Comandante Fidel. Socialismo es muerte

Viva la revolución!


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posted 19 January 2007 12:12 AM      Profile for Adam T     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Seems kind of redundent actually.
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posted 19 January 2007 05:21 PM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Joseph Tito wrote a famous letter to Stalin that said:

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Comrade Stalin.

I ask you to stop sending terrorists to Yugoslavia to murder me. We have already caught seven ... If this doesn't stop, I will send one man to Moscow, and there will be no need to send a second.

Joseph Broz Tito


Perhaps it is time for Fidel to send such a letter to Washington. What are they at now? 650 attempts to murder Fidel?


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posted 19 January 2007 05:26 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Tito was a steely guy, hey? Yikes. Ice in his veins.
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posted 19 January 2007 05:44 PM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ice in his veins and he outlived "Uncle Joe" Stalin by decades. That's one for the little guy.
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posted 19 January 2007 05:47 PM      Profile for a lonely worker     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
What are they at now? 650 attempts to murder Fidel?

If this goes through it will be 639. Don't exagerate or else the likes of EmmaG will say all of us "commies" are liers!

At the same time it appears the US wants to drag us into becoming their new Cuban "refugee" dumping ground:

U.S. wants Canada to take refugees from Iraq, Cuba

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The United States is calling on Canada to accept more refugees driven from Iraq in the wake of the turmoil there.

American officials also want Canada to take about 40 Cuban refugees now housed at the American naval base at Guantanamo, Cuba.

Ellen Sauerbery, an American assistant secretary of state, spent two days in Ottawa this week discussing the matter with foreign affairs and immigration officials.

Ms. Sauerbery said most migrants are economic refugees and in no danger of political persecution and are routinely returned to Cuba. But the 40 at the naval base, along with a handful of Haitians, are deemed to be legitimate refugees, she said.

“Canada has been very helpful in taking Haitians, but at this point has not taken Cubans. We would welcome Canada's assistance.”

She said Canadian officials said they would look into the matter.

Ms. Sauerbery also said the United States is planning for a new wave of migration when Fidel Castro, the ailing Cuban leader, dies.

“A lot of people may see this as an opportunity to escape. We are laying out a strategy to try to discourage a mass migration, but at the same time we can't guarantee it won't occur.”


How nice of our colonial masters to choose which refugees we should take in. Maybe they figured if we had our own gusano population we might start acting as irrationally as them too.

How much do you want to bet that their conversation involved us becoming Washington's new poodle on the Cuban file?

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posted 19 January 2007 05:49 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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posted 19 January 2007 05:50 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yay! Stopped.
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posted 19 January 2007 05:55 PM      Profile for a lonely worker     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

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posted 19 January 2007 06:08 PM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You know, the existence of an escape outlet, however small and modest, for African-Americans fleeing the atrocities of US slavery helped to end that barbaric practice. Maybe, if Canada was more of a haven from current US atrocities, our country could provide an escape outlet again and, once more, undermine the loathsome practices of our neighbour to the south.

Accepting Cuban "refugees" of course, would make it more difficult to accept US refugees. And that's probably the main (US) goal or point anyway.


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posted 19 January 2007 06:53 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ya well, there was no need for Stalin to come to the forefront of the party. The western world should have simply let them have their revolution without interference. Russians were tired of every mercenary army and imperialist troop walking into their country, pillaging and destroying willy nilly. We have the west to thank for the man of steel as well as the great squawker himself.
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posted 19 January 2007 06:54 PM      Profile for a lonely worker     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
NB, interesting point and one worth pursuing.

I also see a far darker picture emerging which is Washington drawing us into their stupid economic war against Cuba. Of course their poodle Steve will only be too happy to oblige.

Fidel I also agree because history is full of examples of western powers interfering in the affairs of others only to find a far worse outcome than originally planned. I believe it's called blowback.

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posted 19 January 2007 07:15 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Blowback for sure. And I can't fathom how some people can equate Zbigniew Brezinki and CIA creating "a few stirred up Muslims" to the Russians backing the NVA against fascist invaders. Afghanistan was always considered by the Russians to be a buffer country between them and the spice and drug route. It would be like the Soviets funelling billions of dollars, arms and SAM missiles to the Guazapas and Sandinistas. There would have been hell to pay if the Russians had pushed any dominoes over on this side of the world.
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posted 19 January 2007 07:19 PM      Profile for a lonely worker     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
But see that's the problem: we can do whatever we want because god is on our side and "they" just have to sit there and take it.

To give an example: if a Cuban politician said about Bush what that Repugnicon said about Castro, the marines would have already been deployed.

We are never "terrorists" we're "freedom fighters".


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posted 19 January 2007 07:36 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There is a ray of hope for democracy in Latin America. Several countries including Venezuela have said they refuse to send anymore military officers to be trained by the infamous School of the Americas/WHINSEC. Disgraced chickenhawk Donald "the Don" Rusfeld did announce increased aid to Latin Americas militaries several months ago, and I pray that it doesn't lead to more oppression of the people down the road. The Cold War is over now. There is no need for increased military aid to Latin America. The Red Menace has passed. And yet there they go with military being the largest part of their doomed upside-down socialist economy.
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posted 19 January 2007 07:46 PM      Profile for a lonely worker     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Unfortunately in washington's eyes the red menace hasn't passed. Anyone who isn't completely subservient is a threat.

I've seen somewhere the US is now spending more money on monitoring Venezuela and Cuba than they are on looking for bin Laden.

Cuba and increasingly Venezuela are near the top of the regime change list because they refuse to be good colonials. No imperial power can last a colonial revolt, Washington knows this and its why they were in Ottawa for the past 2 days getting little pet Stevie to help preserve the neo-lib hegemony.


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posted 19 January 2007 07:59 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They'd have a shitfit if Canadians swung over to the NDP and started talking about owning our own resources.
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posted 19 January 2007 08:21 PM      Profile for a lonely worker     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That would be nice Fidel but unfortunately until our voting system changes and we have a fully committed left wing party, I'm afraid an NDP government (while being a massive improvement) would not dare the heavy lifting that needs to be done (repeal NAFTA, re-examine commitments to NATO, WTO, IMF and neo-lib globalisation in general). The NDP are always at their best when they have another left wing party breathing down their backs (like the Progressives or Communists in the 30's and 40's). Without this the gravity pulls to the centre.

I still am fighting for the best of our current options (NDP) but I will forever remain hopeful we will see the re-emergence of a more dedicated left wing party (be it NDP or a new democratic socialist party like "The Left" in Germany or MAS in Latin America).


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posted 19 January 2007 09:10 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by a lonely worker:
That would be nice Fidel but unfortunately until our voting system changes and we have a fully committed left wing party, I'm afraid an NDP government (while being a massive improvement) would not dare the heavy lifting that needs to be done (repeal NAFTA, re-examine commitments to NATO, WTO, IMF and neo-lib globalisation in general).

The way I see it, the NDP campaigned against FTA and NAFTA over at least two election campaigns. I think they will focus on Kyoto for now as it's straightforward for Canadians. They can see the effects of global warming all around them.

I think the capitalists realize the writing is on the wall for oil based economy and commodities. I think the focus for privatization since GATS has been the global multi-trillion dollar public services in: health care, education, and child care. The NDP is the only one of the three mainstreams, as you've said, who are for maintaining public funding and control of these important services.

The NDP has had to bide its time with conservative ideology in the provinces for privatization. The Saskatchewan NDP under Calvert seems to have continued with the neo-Liberal agenda for privatization. Privatization is a gimmick as is the other part of that neo-Liberal ideology, deregulation. The ONDP knows that things like electrical power generation and health care should remain publicly-funded and controlled. And we only have to look at the deregulation and privatization disasters in the U.S. and around the world to know that the NDP has taken the correct stance all along.

Jack may not be mouting nationalisation now, or killing NAFTA, but he's certainly mentioned taxing the buggers and making them pay for taking our valuable raw materials and energy off our collective hands. And to me, that's the first step towards nationalisation. I believe a future NDP federal backbone could use free market mechanisms to soften up big multinationals into handing us back the family jewels and silverware. Either way we'd win, whether they were made to pay their fair share or we own the stuff outright. I think a much better deal could be re-worked for our valuable energy and lumber exports, for damn sure.


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posted 19 January 2007 09:31 PM      Profile for a lonely worker     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's true but until our voting system changes we'll always be forced to watch everyone race to the neo-lib middle.

That's why I still believe PR has to be priority one to allow for a more democratic process to ensure the oligarchs, which has its tenticles in elements of all parties (witness Summerville's brief forray), will not take precedence over the people.

Strategic voting is the scourge of the progressive movement.


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posted 19 January 2007 10:18 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree. The plutocrats and oligarchy are afraid of democracy. The Summerville incident doesn't convince me. He didn't stick around long. Joseph Stiglitz was an economic advisor to the Clinton regime. A lot of his advice on funding social welfare at the bottom end went unheeded during Clinton's two terms. I think governments make up some policies on the fly. It's a problem with four year planning for an election. We've got two ideologies basically, and they clash like jazz and elevator muzak, up and down, tomorrow and yesterday, left and right ...

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posted 20 January 2007 07:36 AM      Profile for a lonely worker     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Summerville was a bad example. A far better one is Peter Stoffer.
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