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kuri
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posted 01 March 2006 02:30 PM      Profile for kuri   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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The fiercely ambitious Nicolas Sarkozy, who has built his political career on being a tough proponent of law and order, wants to introduce behaviour records which would record any undesirable activities from the age of six onwards, with the aim of preventing it turning into something worse.

The Scotsman

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posted 01 March 2006 02:44 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That seems a tad bit worrisome. Rather dystopian, in my opinion.

That said, the link is broken.


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kuri
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posted 01 March 2006 03:39 PM      Profile for kuri   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fixed.
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kuri
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posted 02 March 2006 09:30 AM      Profile for kuri   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm bumping purely in the selfish hope that someone with more scientific/psychological background than myself can make this story seem less scary than it does now.
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skdadl
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To me, all behavioural science is highly questionable, at best an imperfect art rather than any kind of genuine science, and that would be true of most of psychiatry. But then we have the added problem of a cynical politician latching on to a study he no doubt understands merely superficially but sees as an instant solution to his petty career interests.

At least there are many people responding at once to Sarkozy's cynicism and opportunism with sheer common sense. He indeed makes it sound as though proper society is threatened by a lot of maniacs who can be detected as "bad seeds" when very young. Argh. The common sense response would be to focus on children not as a threat but as vulnerable and to do everything we can to assure that they do not grow up in despair and anger.

Dr Glose has it right in that concluding statement. Such a relief to hear that there are still a few doctors in touch with reality. Who expects that of politicians?


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posted 02 March 2006 10:15 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sarkozy is indeed a scary bastard. The type of politician who coasts on slightly more presentable versions of the themes of the far right, and loves to talk of "cleaning up" areas (of the homeless, street prostitutes, etc.) and spoke of tough housing estates having to be cleaned with the type of high-power hoses used to water-clean grimy old buildings.

As we have seen recently with the tragic Ilal Halimi story, there are indeed many ruthless young gang leaders who are fostered on tough housing estates. When such ruthless, unfeeling ambitious types grow up in the chic, leafy 16th arrondissement, they become ruthless businessmen ... or politicians of Sarkozy's ilk.


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posted 10 March 2006 06:23 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A petition against this "predictive medicine" experience is gathering strong support in France. There are many sites on it - just google petition pas de zero de conduite pour les enfants de 3 ans (no need to include accents) and you'll get a lot of hits.

article on zéro de conduite petition.


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