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CNN is beaming reporters into the studio!

Save me Wolf Blitzer, your my only hope!

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Originally posted by Doug:
CNN has given Virginia right away to Obama, which is a great sign for him.

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How can they do that? McCain appears to be leading there (unless you mean the senate race where Warner is significantly ahead of the Republican). He also has a lead in Florida although of course it is very early. Might start drinking heavily right now.

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Originally posted by Trevormkidd:

How can they do that? McCain appears to be leading there (unless you mean the senate race where Warner is significantly ahead of the Republican). He also has a lead in Florida although of course it is very early. Might start drinking heavily right now.

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Florida is definitely too early. Those numbers come from like one or two precincts in a heavily republican areas.

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Originally posted by ElizaQ:
MSNBC is calling Pennsylvania for Obama.

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Originally posted by Doug:

Awww...and McCain tried SO hard to get it!

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Originally posted by Boom Boom:
Dole is scum - her opponent was the target of vicious lies by E. Dole, and considered a lawsuit, but it wouldn't have been heard until well after the election. I'm very happy to see Dole lose!

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Originally posted by pogge:
ABC appears to be the most aggressive in terms of what they're prepared to call. Their electoral map page is here.

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Originally posted by Boom Boom:
oops - my mistake - the Democrats won the Governor's race in New Hampshire. Not the federal election - yet!

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ETA: Elsewhere on the CNN site it says that there are 133 ballot measures in 33 states this election, down from 2004 and 2000. The Wiki "Initiatives" article won't load but a pdf from the USC School of Law on iandrinstitute.org says that not quite half of these direct democracy measures come about as a result of citizen petitions, while the majority are placed on the ballot by legislatures. Anyway, this is not the only ballot issue in Florida this year, and Florida is not by any means the first state to have produced such a ballot. Other states are balloting on abortion access, as a prelude to producing a case to test the court on overturning Roe v Wade. So, I guess, no real evidence of conspiracy there.

Jeez, I'm glad we don't have those things though.

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Originally posted by pogge:
The polls in about 15 states close momentarily. Should see some movement shortly.

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Iowa + New Mexico + Colorado does it.
Or Virginia + any one of the above.
Or Ohio alone.
Or Florida alone.
etc.

(edited to add the link to your one-stop shop on all the network calls)

[ 04 November 2008: Message edited by: Sombrero Jack ]

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Originally posted by Sombrero Jack:
It's worth noting that all the states called for Obama thus far were Kerry states in 2004. He's going to win, but he's not there yet.

Iowa + New Mexico + Colorado does it.
Or Virginia + any one of the above.
Or Ohio alone.
Or Florida alone.
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Fox called Ohio for Obama a couple minutes ago. Then retracted that call a couple seconds later.

And don't forget North Carolina. If Obama can keep his lead their then that is huge.

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Originally posted by ElizaQ:
Ouch. McCain's home state AZ is being reported as to close to call.
That one would be an upset.

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Pollster.com now shows 4 of the networks having called Ohio for Obama. CNN hasn't done so as yet.

CNN has now.

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Originally posted by Trevormkidd:
Both CBS and Fox (for a second time) call Ohio for Obama!!

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I'm sure hearing Fox call that twice is twice as nice!

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Originally posted by Policywonk:
Ohio seems to have done it. That was all that was needed to change from 2004, and the Democrats shouldn't lose any states, and will likely pick up others.

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Potentially New Mexico, Colorado, Florida, NC, Virginia and Utah (edit: oops I meant Nevada, not Utah) on top of Ohio. Not as high an electoral vote as Clinton received, but a higher percent of the vote then Clinton received in both '92 and '96. Probably Obama will actually have the highest vote percentage among Democratic candidates since LBJ in 1964.

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Originally posted by janfromthebruce:
This is very exciting. I keep switching back and forth from comments here and watching the results on TV.

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Me too!

Though now we've switch to the comedy version of the results with Stewart and Colbert.

My Dad keeps saying, well it looks like it's in the bag can I watch Law and Order now and my Mom keeps thwaping him, "no no, this is history, we're watching this...'

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Next they need a woman - and then more presidents with beards.

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Actually, the US has had two gay presidents: James Buchanan and Abraham Lincoln.

They could also bring back some long hairs, and maybe the atheists too.

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Potentially New Mexico, Colorado, Florida, NC, Virginia and Utah (edit: oops I meant Nevada, not Utah) on top of Ohio.

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Originally posted by remind:
How can they possibly have declared Utah for McCain when Obama is leading?

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Originally posted by remind:
How can they possibly have declared Utah for McCain when Obama is leading?

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same way they declare New Mexico for Obama when McCain is leading

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How can they possibly have declared Utah for McCain when Obama is leading?

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Don't know why they haven't called Colorado yet,

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Originally posted by miles:
same way they declare New Mexico for Obama when McCain is leading

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Obama is leadinng in New Mexico, moreover with 9 million new/first time voters registered, I do not think a compare to the results last time dsfa.

McCain is starting to catch up and Obama has not moved off of the 207 for a long time now.

Also for the first time tonight it looks like Obama could take Missouri.

[ 04 November 2008: Message edited by: Trevormkidd ]

California will go Dem

game set match

Interesting is how close actual votes are. While Obama is cleaning up on electoral college his mandate from real people is still small

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Most importantly, Jon Stewart has called it for Obama.

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thought he would be a good 8-10 points up

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I think he still will be. Lots of votes to come in in blue states.

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Originally posted by remind:
...and what is really sweet about this is, watching them rail at the dark site about there not being a God.

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Holy cow. Really?

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Holy cow. Really?

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Oh ya, they have about 5 different threads bemoaning the results. And interestingly they are also decrying the fact that now for sure the fight against abortions is over for good. That there will be no hope for them to continue. :bigeyes:

Reading it almost makes me feel better about Oct 14th! And it gives me hope that Canadians too will weake up!

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finally Martin Luther King jr and Bobby Kennedy can rest in peace. Their mission has been accomplished.

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Originally posted by ElizaQ:
Yeah there's been some pretty "ha ha" reading moments on a few of those sites tonight. My evil side can't help but go take peeks.

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Oh, I know me too..moving money off shore... anti-Christ wins...there is no God...Democrats stole it...but McCain is creeping up on Obama in Ohio! And what is with Delaware it is close there with only 35% of polls reporting?

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Might be the first time in over 100 years that Missouri does not support the presidental winner.

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Wait for the Democratic vote that will come in late.

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Originally posted by janfromthebruce:
do you have link to the "dark site"?

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Ummm, we don't link to it from here, but google freedominion and you will get to it.

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Originally posted by remind:

Ummm, we don't link to it from here, but google freedominion and you will get to it.

And I am wondering what the Repubs are going to do, declare war on the world and keep GWB in power? Or should I say Cheney in power?

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Voters in all three states also voted to ban same-sex marriage.