He’s not.

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Originally posted by 500_Apples:
So I'm wondering if there's any coded distinction between being a "Hockey mom" and being a "soccer mom". There are a few possibilities. There is the benign one, that there's no difference and her kids played hockey rather than soccer, which is not impossible. Another one is that hockey has a message of a more expensive sport where poor kids can't play, but my american roommate told me yesterday that was too far fetched as most americans are too unfamiliar with hockey to know it's expensive. It could also be she wants the positive impressions of soccer mom without some of the negative connotations that have grown attached, and maybe changing the label will work.

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The possibility of it being a nefarious “coded message” is extremely unlikely. As your American roommate said, most Americans (unfortunately) don’t know anything about hockey and have never even seen a live game of hockey, let alone know that the sport is expensive.

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Originally posted by Sven:
After the wonderful speech that Obama gave in Denver, there was no opportunity to see what impact that speech had on voters (I suspect it would have been very positive). About twelve hours after Obama’s speech (eight of which people spent sleeping), McCain introduced Palin as his running mate and that sucked all of the media air out of Obama’s sails.

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Interesting how all the Cons play from the same hand book, on how to silence your opponents.

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Originally posted by remind:

Interesting how all the Cons play from the same hand book, on how to silence your opponents.

May did the same thing up here to Layton.

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Originally posted by 500_Apples:
For mysterious reasons the democrats opted to have their convention first.

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The funniest things were about the Repub Senator Thompson that Jon pointed out sounds and looks like Foghorn Leghorn and Lieberman who sounds and looks like Droopy Dog, thus establishing them as cartoon characters and not just any cartoon characters, but Looney Tunes ones.

He however forgot to point out that there is no better Looney Tunes character for Palin, than Miss Prissy

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Originally posted by Boom Boom:
remind, what the hell are those things sticking out of Palin's neck, just below her chin at the rear?

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Never noticed it before, but it looks to me like the make up was unable to cover her Cardassian ridges.

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Originally posted by 500_Apples:
So I'm wondering if there's any coded distinction between being a "Hockey mom" and being a "soccer mom".

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Originally posted by remind:
I concur with the racist element behind the label "hockey mom".

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Of course you do. You will read the most nefarious thing into what is written or said (even if it's not actually written or said).

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Originally posted by Sven:

Of course you do. You will read the most nefarious thing into what is written or said (even if it's not actually written or said).

Like I said before, Americans know about as much about ice hockey as they know about cricket...which is close to, but not precisely equal to, zero.

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The hockey mom label does not need all Americans to be experts. This is a very close election, and if it just has a significant effect on say one American in ten then that is all that is needed for victory.

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Originally posted by 500_Apples:
The hockey mom label does not need all Americans to be experts. This is a very close election, and if it just has a significant effect on say one American in ten then that is all that is needed for victory.

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Originally posted by Sven:
Like I said before, Americans know about as much about ice hockey as they know about cricket...which is close to, but not precisely equal to, zero.

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Will ignore another of your gratuitous personal attacks. And will just say:

BS, and fabrications, where all the national "cricket teams" throughout the USA?

I guess that would mean the USA does not have a Olympic hockey team, nor a world women's hockey team either? In fact. wiki says it is more popular than soccer in the USA.

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Sports in the United States are an important part of the national culture. However, the sporting culture of the U.S. is different from that of many other countries. Compared to any other nation, Americans prefer a unique set of sports. For example, soccer, the most popular sport in many other countries, is not as popular in the U.S. compared to the four most popular team sports, namely, American football, basketball, baseball, and ice hockey. The major leagues of each of these sports enjoy massive media exposure and are considered the preeminent competitions in their respective sports in the world. The preeminence of the major leagues is partially attributed to their strong financial power and huge domestic market, as well as the fact that relatively few other countries play some of their dominant sports, like American football, to any significant extent.

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According to a recent story in Street & Smith's Sports Business Journal, the NHL, with an attendance average of 16,409 fans per game, was outdrawing the NBA by 108 fannies. If the figures hold for the rest of the regular season, it would mark the first time the NHL on average would outdraw the NBA since the 1987-88 season.

Sure, the lead has come largely from the NBA's decline, but you can't overlook what a psychological boost this is for the NHL. Just eight seasons ago, the NBA had a seemingly insurmountable 14.3% attendance lead.

So how did the NHL do it? Well, despite all the criticism the league has taken over the years for expanding faster than Dan Aykroyd's waistline, the NHL's strategy of going into markets where the NBA--or for that matter, professional football and baseball--dared not to tread, like Columbus, Nashville, and San Jose, has been a success.

But it's not just in virgin territory where the NHL is thriving. Take a look at the chart below. In the 15 markets where the NHL and NBA compete virtually head-to-head

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Its popularity mirrors that of women's hockey, which made its Olympic debut in 1998 and has quickly taken root at the high school level. At least 50,000 girls and women now play, up from about 6,000 in 1991, according to USA Hockey, Inc., the sport's national governing body.

"If you look at the number of teams that have gone varsity as well as club programs, it's exploded over the last decade," said Michele Amidon, USA Hockey's director of women's ice hockey operations.

In Vermont, 23 high schools have added girls hockey since 2002, according to Bob Johnson, director of student activities for the Vermont Principals Association.

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Every game I've watched on the telly from an American arena (not many, I admit) appeared to be sold out.

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A lot of them are. The Blackhawks have a 19,000 seat arena in a metro area of about 10 million people and they can't sell it out. Even here in Minnesota (the "State of Hockey"), I'm amazed at how many people have never been to a hockey game before.

I suspect that the rough order of popularity in America you'd find:

1. NFL football
2. NASCAR
3. College football
4. MLB baseball
5. NBA basketball
6. College basketball
7. PGA golf

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Originally posted by Boom Boom:
Every game I've watched on the telly from an American arena (not many, I admit) appeared to be sold out.

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Originally posted by remind:
I guess that would mean the USA does not have a Olympic hockey team, nor a world women's hockey team either?

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Originally posted by remind:

As I noted above, it is the 4th most popular sport in the USA, some people are just trying to pretend/appear they know something, when it appears they know almost "zero".

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Again, you should learn to read. The wiki article says that hockey is the fourth most popular team sport. And, that is a distant fourth team sport.

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very few people watch hockey in America

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...Like I said before, Americans know about as much about ice hockey as they know about cricket...which is close to, but not precisely equal to, zero.

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Hockey sits way down somewhere with boxing, soccer, and tennis.

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When indeed it is the 4th largest sport in the USA.

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FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."

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Do we need two threads for Remind and Sven to argue about the importance of hockey in America?

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Originally posted by kropotkin1951:
Do we need two threads for Remind and Sven to argue about the importance of hockey in America?

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Nope, and my apologies for taking a shot at Sven's BS into the other thread.

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Originally posted by 500_Apples:
So I'm wondering if there's any coded distinction between being a "Hockey mom" and being a "soccer mom".

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Originally posted by remind:
I concur with the racist element behind the label "hockey mom".

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With respect that's just silly. I don't see soccer mom as wink wink racist, or nascar dad.

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FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."

THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.

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This is a Rove lie, exposed by Jon Stewart last night, that Huckabee is spewing, and he bought it, egg on his face or what?

Another lie is how Faux news, namely O'Reilly, is trying to spin the VP's daughter's teen pregnancy into nothing, after their/his overblown production against Jamie Lynn Spear's and her parents, where O'Reilly claimed it was her parents lack of parenting that caused their daughter's pregnancy. He called them pin heads even. But not so it seems for Palin, and the hyprocrit Repubs, it seems they do not blame Palin at all!

And the Repubs carried on and on about Bills' blowjob in the White House and the message it would send to children, yet think nothing of the message that Palin's drop out of school pregnant teen age daughter would send to teenagers across America.

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Originally posted by Boom Boom:
FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."

THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.

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ETA: Just saw the last portion of MCcains speech, and his walking off of the stage. His movements looked doddering, or something less than vigorus and responsive to his commands. Is this campaign going to be too much for him physically?

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Originally posted by It's Me D:
remind: love the unexpected Trek reference! The Republicans have a lot in common with those Cardis as well, for example they share a "guilty until proven innocent" mentality.

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Amongst many other attributes!

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The Cardassians are not the only extra terrestrial forces supporting John McCain.

The Cylons also support McCain.

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The Cylons also support McCain.

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Had he not been the son and grandson of admirals, there is scant chance he would have been admitted to the U.S. Naval Academy. Given his behavior patterns and academics, had he not been the son and grandson of admirals, there is little doubt he would have been thrown out. Instead, in 1958 he managed to graduate 894 out of 899. Had he not been the son and grandson of admirals, he is no chance he would have been accepted into the prestigious naval flight training program over far better qualified officers. On his way to becoming a North Vietnamese ace, the aviator lost 3 expensive aircraft on routine, non-combat flights. Little was made of all that, because he was, you know, the son and grandson of admirals.

I just watch the USS Forrestal incident on the history Channel not more than 20 minutes ago. They laid out a different set of events.

The rocket was launch by a static charge off another aircraft, the rocket did hit McCain’s aircraft.

I believe McCain was a F4 pilot and not an A4 pilot.

The show is called “Shockwave”

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I'll have to look into it further, maybe the History Channel's version is revisionism?

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And McCain did fly a A4E Skyhawk.

excerpt: PRISONER OR HONORED GUEST?

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McLamb further quotes former POWs as saying McCain starred in 32 propaganda videos in which he denounced his country and comrades.

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Sven, I specifically asked if this article is BS or true.

Contributors to Snopes are less than impressed.

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JOHN McCAIN
THE MOST FLAWED PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN HISTORY

It is now clear that what is left of the Republicon Party, after being fatally poisoned by the Bush administration, intents to commit suicide by nominating Senator John McCain (R-Hanoi) for the presidency. Where do I start?

THE EARLY YEARS ...

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"McCain often crosses the aisle to block the confirmation of conservative judges with strict construction leanings. His record on taxes is clear; he likes them. Senator hyphen has co-sponsored ill conceived legislation that would boost gasoline prices by more than half a dollar a gallon. And he supports radical global warming measures that would significantly disadvantage the U.S."

Jimmy Carter on McCain

fellow Midshipmen will not note McCainThe Video McCain does not want anyone to see