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Topic: Catholic Church takes strong stand against marriage
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unionist
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posted 26 September 2006 11:51 AM
Church removes Zambia archbishop quote: Pope Benedict XVI has excommunicated a Zambian archbishop, Emmanuel Milingo, two days after he ordained four married men as bishops.A Vatican statement said he had been automatically excommunicated under church law because of his actions. [...] Correspondents say that Archbishop Milingo has long been a controversial figure in the Roman Catholic Church. Six years ago, he married a South Korean woman at a mass wedding in New York organised by the Korean-based Unification Church - the so-called "Moonies".
Benedict is a subtle thinker. He blasted Canada for allowing same-sex marriages, now Zambia is in shit with Jesus for blessing opposite sex marriages. Is there a third sex we should be hearing about?
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unionist
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posted 26 September 2006 12:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by Boom Boom:
I know you meant this in jest, but for the uninitiated, the Vatican does not permit married priests within its ranks. The Vatican is under the control of a very conservative pope at present; and faces rebellious clergy and laity who are calling for changes to allow married clergy, women priests, and openly gay clergy.
Are you 100% sure that the Vatican allows an African to marry a Korean? I think that's the real story here.
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Martha (but not Stewart)
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posted 26 September 2006 01:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Boom Boom: I know you meant this in jest, but for the uninitiated, the Vatican does not permit married priests within its ranks.
Actually, this is not quite true. There are a number of "Churches" or "Rites" within the Catholic Church, all of which are in full communion with the Vatican. The Latin Rite or Roman Rite is by far the largest -- many people misidentify the Latin Rite with the Catholic Church. But there are many Eastern Rite Catholics, to be disitnguished from Eastern Orthodox Christians: the Eastern Rite Catholics have rituals that ressemble Eastern Orthodox rituals, but, unlike the Orthodox, they recognize the authority of the Pope and they are in "full communion" with Rome. They are considered by the Vatican to be Catholics in every sense: they simply differ in liturgy, ecclesiastical discipline, and spiritual heritage from the Latin Rite. (source, source, source, source, source) And the Eastern Rites within the Catholic Church have married priests. To be more explicit, Eastern Rite Catholic bishops are permitted to ordain married men, though ordained men are not permitted to get married. (You have to get married first.) As remarked by Pope Paul VI, "[Celibacy] is not demanded by the very nature of the priesthood, as is apparent from the practice of the early Church and from the traditions of the Eastern Churches. where, besides those who with all the bishops, by a gift of grace, choose to observe celibacy, there are also married priests of highest merit. This holy synod, while it commends ecclesiastical celibacy, in no way intends to alter that different discipline which legitimately flourishes in the Eastern Churches." (source) [ 26 September 2006: Message edited by: Martha (but not Stewart) ]
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slimpikins
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posted 26 September 2006 01:49 PM
Interesting story. A buddy of mine, somewhere in the middle of 6 kids, Catholic family. His parents seperate, then divorce. After several years of trying, they manage to get an 'annulment'. I remember this disctinctly, as when he said that meant the marriage had technically never taken place I started to refer to him as a 'retroactive bastard'.Several years later, his parents reconcile. They are currently living together, unmarried, as the church won't let them marry in the church. Not sure if it is because they were married before, or because they are living together, or what. Just another example of Catholicism not seein the forest for the trees.
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