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tash
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posted 20 November 2006 07:06 AM      Profile for tash     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello, I'm currently working on a paper and hopefully future thesis on labour education as a tool for radical social change in the mainstream labour movement.

I am curious to hear what people think about this questions:

Can labour education transform the mainstream labour movement from a bureaucratic, top-down patriarchal movement to a grassroots, worker-centred movement that pushes for radical social change and union renewal?


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N.Beltov
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posted 20 November 2006 07:48 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Can labour education transform the mainstream labour movement from a bureaucratic, top-down patriarchal movement to a grassroots, worker-centred movement that pushes for radical social change and union renewal?

The registration deadline has passed but maybe you can get some information about/from the upcoming Labour Education conference in Ottawa, from November 30 to December 3, sponsored by the CLC.

CLC National Labour Education Conference

Of course, maybe the conference will be top-down, patriarchal and bureaucratic. But you never know.


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tash
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posted 20 November 2006 07:58 AM      Profile for tash     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for the idea. I have been involved with the CLC in the past and there are some really amazing people who work there, and then there's the top-down, bureaucratic, barriers as well. They have some really great education and some old school stuff as well. In fact, it was because of my involvement with the CLC and other mainstream labour organizations that I have gone back to school to study this stuff. Anyway, I feel like i have more of a handle on the labour education stuff. What I really need are ideas and thoughts around the whether the mainstream labour movement is top-down, beaurocratic, etc and whether radical change is necessary and needs to happen?

I am also interested in if people think that the labour movement is just a "victim" to the neoliberal agenda, which is what I read a lot- There tends to be a lot of excuses made by the mainstream labour movement as to why their density is dropping etc...Or has the movement been co-opted into the neoliberal system thereby losing it's ability to push for radical change?


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N.Beltov
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posted 20 November 2006 08:20 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
These issues are discussed and debated by many intelligent observers on the labour movement - both in Canada and the US. Check out Monthly Review and Labor Notes in the US. The Communists here in Canada are pretty good for a radical critique of the mainstream labour movement while retaining the quality of a "loyal opposition' or something. Their paper People's Voice always has special issues around CLC Conventions, May Day, Labour Day, and so on. Check out Canadian Dimension as well.

The mainstream newspapers in Canada no longer have labour reporters at all. It's treated as part of the business pages - just as wages and working conditions are treated as a cost of production and not as a measure of quality of life for the majority. Good luck with your paper and possible thesis.


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posted 20 November 2006 08:59 AM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by tash:

Can labour education transform the mainstream labour movement from a bureaucratic, top-down patriarchal movement to a grassroots, worker-centred movement that pushes for radical social change and union renewal?

No.


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tash
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posted 20 November 2006 11:23 AM      Profile for tash     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Unionist, would you care to elaborate on your response? I'm curious....
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unionist
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posted 20 November 2006 11:58 AM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by tash:
Hi Unionist, would you care to elaborate on your response? I'm curious....

To the extent that the union movement needs renewal and workers need to fight for radical social change, "labour education" cannot be instrumental in "transforming" the situation. You don't become radicalized by sitting in a classroom - besides the issue of who is going to do the teaching. "Labour education" delivered to workers who are not already engaged in transforming the situation may just help a few of them fit neatly into a pre-existing bureaucracy.

Anyway, your question is extremely tendentious. It presupposes a problem, presupposes the solution, then asks whether labour education is the road toward that particular solution.


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posted 20 November 2006 03:51 PM      Profile for gbuddy        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You may get a better sense of unionist's perspective by reviewing his enthusiastic and articulate contributions to the recent thread "Re: They Learned It In School", found in the Rabble Reactions section.

If you want to know how one gets a real hands-on education in the realities of the labour world I might be able to assist you. Unfortunately I am not impressed by what passes for formal labour education in this province (e.g. http://www.capcollege.bc.ca/ce/north-shore/labour-studies/courses.html) and I think the prospects for any meaningful change are remote.

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posted 20 November 2006 08:25 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by gbuddy:
You may get a better sense of unionist's perspective by reviewing his enthusiastic and articulate contributions to the recent thread "Re: They Learned It In School", found in the Rabble Reactions section.

Tash, you are free to listen to anyone you like, obviously. But I advise you to pay more attention to the actual views and positions people put forward than in ad hominem methods of attacking one's opponent.


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posted 20 November 2006 09:16 PM      Profile for CUPE_Reformer   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Originally posted by tash
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Can labour education transform the mainstream labour movement from a bureaucratic, top-down patriarchal movement to a grassroots, worker-centred movement that pushes for radical social change and union renewal?


tash:

Yes. A Troublemaker's Website

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Steppenwolf Allende
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posted 20 November 2006 11:40 PM      Profile for Steppenwolf Allende     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Can labour education transform the mainstream labour movement from a bureaucratic, top-down patriarchal movement to a grassroots, worker-centred movement that pushes for radical social change and union renewal?

This is a good question. On a broad scale I would say yes. However, before we go much further on this, I think it’s important, both in fairness to the labour movement and the huge gains it has made for humanity over the decades and even centuries and in keeping with ethical research, not to make such sweeping and dismissive generalizations or condemnations of what is arguably the largest and most diverse social/economic movement in the world.

This is not to say that the bureaucratic top-down and even corporatist mindset don’t influence many labour unions. They certainly do—some more than others.

But that’s true of every democratic cooperative and community association (with most being in many ways more influenced by these than many labour unions). Why? Because these are sadly integral features of the corporate capitalist economics and values that dominate our economy and largely our society (and therefore influence other organizations and sub economies, including those that aren’t corporatist or capitalist).

In terms of patriarchal, that needs some clarification. If you mean it in how many feminists apply that term, as in exclusive to men, then it should be pointed out that labour organizations, including in Canada, arguably have more participation by women, as both activists and elected officials, than just about any other organization.

Again, that’s not to say there’s anything close to approximate parity or that there’s no need to improve things in this regard (ethnic diversity among elected reps is another area that needs work). But it’s clear when it comes to inclusiveness, it’s usually the labour movement that moves on this first and the most.

As for “worker-centered,” I assume you are referring to a more activist oriented “direct action” approach that encourages rank and file members to become more active and take more initiative in union affairs, than the much more stratified “leave-it-up-to-the-pros” attitude that reflects the general apathy and sense of dis-empowerment out there.

Labour education can certainly help develop these practices, depending on the nature of the education. Much of the current labour studies programs in the colleges are good in that they offer practical skills for shop stewards and people who get elected to negotiating or safety committees, union executives, etc. (teaching things like grievance-handling and mediation, confronting the boss, chairing meetings, basic labour law and history, etc.).

But they don’t get much beyond these things, as useful as they are, in terms of getting more people involved and advancing the historic political and economic goals of the labour movement. More of these types of courses can certainly developed, and labour education and history, since it is in fact the history of the vast majority of people, should certainly be taught in grade school.

However, Unionist, while being his usual totally dismissive and defeatist self, does make a good point in that it’s not good enough to simply take an academic classroom approach to this. Rather, it needs to be complimented by practical real-life experiences and learning within unions directly.

In my union, the CEP, we voted to start an activist mentorship program, which many locals have adopted with reportedly some real success at getting more people involved. And several locals are now moving to actually train more members and pay them wage compensation for time off work for union activities (like organizing or member assistance), rather than simply hiring more full-time professional staff.

I also think that labour studies and history should be included as a key feature in business programs, and these themselves should be taught from a working-class public interest perspective, teaching people how capitalist economics work, the nature and politics of corporate institutions and how these affect people and their environment, as well as the practical democratic socialist alternatives out there.

A couple sites of interest:

UE - The USA's Independent, Rank-and-File Union

Cyber-unionism

How To Unionize!


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robbie_dee
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posted 21 November 2006 09:44 AM      Profile for robbie_dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Paul Buhle, "Labor Educator as Labor Radical," MRZine, 7/11/2006 (review of Harry Kelber, My 70 Years in the Labor Movement (2006))

quote:
What makes Harry Kelber still tick, at 92, and a lot more than tick: to go on the offensive in newsletters and speeches against the absence of democracy in the upper ranks of the labor movement (AFL-CIO or Change to Win) and to proselytize for the need for global solidarity, innovative tactics, and, in general, a reawakening? It can't be a desire for the cushy retirement and rounds of golf confidently anticipated by the Meany- and Kirkland-era labor chiefs, that's for sure. We need to look back into another era, and Kelber's many young decades, now so long past, lend us the opportunity to do so for a character still very much on the scene now.

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posted 21 November 2006 10:30 AM      Profile for gbuddy        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Excellent citation. I'm going to look for the book myself.

Here's another thought. If you look at the current labour sponsored education, i.e. the curriculum, and at the actual audience, what distinguishes either one from the situation thirty years ago.

Probably nothing. But times have changed radically. People inside unions don't connect with those unions for the same reasons the general population does not connect. They perceive that the message, if they even hear one, is all PR and no substance. We buy toothpaste not because of the advertising, which has no impact on us, but because the product has a practical purpose in our lives. The labour movement needs to figure out what real benefit it can offer to people. PR doesn't cut it. The results speak for themselves.

The kind of initiative that would work is for the labour movement to forget the idealogical rhetoric and offer people real assistance in establishing and maintaining stable livelihoods. Currently its still about jobs and jobs are no longer stable. The labour movement cannot turn the clock back and change that reality.

When I turned to my union seeking the assistance it purported to offer, replies to my letters always started "Dear Brother ..." and ended "In Solidarity". When the union decided that I was no longer worthy of its attention I received a letter that told me so by opening "Dear Mr. ..." and closing "Sincerely ... ".

That's how you turn people off. It's not about convincing people to join your cause. It's about offering them something of real value. That goes for everything including education.


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tash
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posted 21 November 2006 10:58 AM      Profile for tash     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi again, I just lost the reply i was working on...so let me try again. First, thanks for all the feedback (even the defeatist). I have been working in the area of labour education for a few years and have had the privilege of learning from some of (in my opinion) the best labour educators around. These educators apply a popular education philosophy and methodology to labour education. This means that education starts from worker's personal experiences. The knowledge they generate is valued and the goal of the education and training is to apply what has been learned in the classroom into action (see Paulo Freire and Pedagogy of the Oppressed for more info). Therefore, I would say this form of education is not soley classroom based and acedemic. Rather it is critical and action focussed.

I also appreciate the comments about the assumptions i have made. In the spirit of personal experience, I rooted my question in what I have perceived participating in the labour movement. Although there are more women in the labour movement as activists and leaders I do not think that it necessarily translates into challenging traditional patriarchal structures (that are top-down and beaurocratic). Equal representaion does not mean we have attained systemic equity for all. In fact I have met many women that have some form of power in the labour movement, but this power is the type that has been valued in a patriarchal system. Therefore, women often seek traditional forms of male power which do not challenge the systemic forms of oppression, it simply maintains the staus quo...just with more women participating in it. Margaret Thatcher comes to mind....
I think there are some serious structural barriers to women, people of colour and other equality-seeking groups having an equal and valued voice in this movement. I think the actual sturctures of the movement need to change in order for radical transformation to happen...I don't know if education can do this...or be a part of it...but I do think radical transformation needs to happen for the labour movement to continue being relevant to workers and citizens today.


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posted 23 November 2006 06:10 AM      Profile for injusticebuster     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My personal experience is that Ontario Ministry of Labour punishes and persecutes workers who know and enforce their basic labour and human rights.

I was terminated by my employer for enforcing my right to have my overtime, vacation time paid, harrasment free and safe work environment. My company fabricated my lay off and MOT knew it was against the clause in the company's manual to terminate a worker on sick leave but MOT committed fraudelant and failed to enforce the law. MOT ordered to fire manager who harrased other co-worker at the same time but the fact was withheld from me.

I exposed incompetent Employment Standard officers who bluntly stated that reinstatment is not a option under Employment Standards and ruled that vacation time did not add up during the sick leave contrary to Supreme Court's decision.

I was threatened by MOT's prosecutor who told me "I am going to make sure you not going to come here every year" and colaborted with my employer and released all my medical records to discredit me.


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