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Wilf Day
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posted 11 August 2003 11:00 PM      Profile for Wilf Day     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Am I the only one who sees anything odd about the titles under "location, location, location"? We have Canada (0.5% of the world's people), the Middle East (5.9% of the world's people), and "the rest of the world" (93.6% of the world's people.) Curious geographic preoccupations, no? And yet it seems to be accurate: the posts in this section show only a sporadic interest in the rest of the world. Why?
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Michelle
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posted 11 August 2003 11:03 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Maybe because most of the people on the site are Canadian, and it's a Canadian site?

Come on, is this a serious question?

As for why we talk about the Middle East so much, I'm too tired to have that debate again. Someone else can take over.


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Wilf Day
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posted 11 August 2003 11:16 PM      Profile for Wilf Day     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have no problem with people who want to talk about the Middle East. I just find it odd if that's all they want to talk about.
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redshift
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posted 11 August 2003 11:25 PM      Profile for redshift     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
maybe a death and mayhem section.generic
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Michelle
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posted 11 August 2003 11:30 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, there are people with a lot emotionally invested in that area of the world, so it's not surprising to me. My own interest in the region stems from the fact that I was married to someone who was from that area of the world and told me all sorts of interesting stories and political points of view about it. Whereas I'm not really close with anyone from Africa or East Asia.
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clersal
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posted 11 August 2003 11:32 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Probably because The Middle East is the main news item. You must remember, the babblers are from one coast to the other. We zero in as a group.
Most of the political threads are like this.
If you have another subject start it.

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satana
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posted 12 August 2003 05:20 AM      Profile for satana     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As for me, I have been living in the middle-east for the last few years. I wish more people living in other regions would join babble.
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swallow
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posted 12 August 2003 01:09 PM      Profile for swallow     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The rest of the world is a brand-new forum, and msot foreign news items go under news or politics (debates on Congo, for istance). So no surprise that there's not much here. It's hardly "myopia."
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Doug
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posted 12 August 2003 01:10 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I plead guilty to myopia. -5.75 diopters in the one eye and -5.5 diopters in the other.
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spatrioter
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posted 12 August 2003 02:01 PM      Profile for spatrioter     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
spatrioter:

LEFT: -1.75
RIGHT: -2.00


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Mr. Magoo
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posted 12 August 2003 02:16 PM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If you hold my glasses backwards and look at a map of Toronto you can actually see little tiny people waving.
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spatrioter
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posted 12 August 2003 02:32 PM      Profile for spatrioter     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Magoo, you've done it again.
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mighty brutus
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posted 12 August 2003 02:46 PM      Profile for mighty brutus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Steady, Magoo, Steady!
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skdadl
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posted 12 August 2003 03:00 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
swallow said it: the threads on "the rest of the world" have traditionally mainly turned up under News, and there are lots of them there now.

It is fair, though, to think that some ongoing international stories should be discussed here, even when they're not making headlines. I think people just aren't used to doing that yet, although meades especially has been good at doing that for us in the past.

On the one hand, of course we all feel vaguely guilty about being not much more than ambulance-chasers, followers of headlines -- but it is hard to talk usefully about parts of the world that are genuinely foreign to you. I suspect that many babblers are interested in reading what anyone has to say about, eg, Africa or Latin America, but have little to add. That's usually my situation.

The Middle East is heatedly debated for the OBVIOUS reason that it is of life-and-death importance to everyone. I fear that, if the Palestinians go under, as appears more than possible at the moment, all North Americans and Europeans will be facing an entire generation of understandable if never justifiable terrorism. Maybe it is healthier to stop thinking about that since most of us can't do a bloody thing about it -- I don't know. I just think that it is an obvious fact.

I also have personal connections to Central and Southeast Asia, and am unhappy with all the imperialist adventures there whose history I know.

[ 12 August 2003: Message edited by: skdadl ]


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Wilf Day
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posted 12 August 2003 03:15 PM      Profile for Wilf Day     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
It is fair, though, to think that some ongoing international stories should be discussed here, even when they're not making headlines. I think people just aren't used to doing that yet . . . of course we all feel vaguely guilty about being not much more than ambulance-chasers, followers of headlines . . .

Thank you for supporting my little bureaucratic point about list titles.

But then again, it's not just bureaucratic. Take Brazil. We had a couple of good discussions going about Lula's government not long ago. They petered out. Considering that Brazil is the world's largest democratic-socialist-governed country (and has half the population of the entire Middle East, about 62% of the population of the USA) and its politics are well worth following and maybe even inspiring, those discussions were worth following up.


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skdadl
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posted 12 August 2003 04:04 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So, like, Wilfred! Keep posting, eh?
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spatrioter
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posted 12 August 2003 04:24 PM      Profile for spatrioter     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Like, tubular!
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'lance
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posted 12 August 2003 04:40 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
If you hold my glasses backwards and look at a map of Toronto you can actually see little tiny people waving.

If you hold my glasses near any sort of paper, and the lighting is strong, the paper will catch fire.


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skdadl
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posted 12 August 2003 04:53 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Come on, baby, light my ...

Oops. 'Scuse moi. Wrong thread. Never mind.


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'lance
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posted 12 August 2003 05:06 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fear not, skdadl, I never do.
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audra trower williams
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posted 12 August 2003 05:09 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If folks-in-the know want to moderate other geographic specific forums, I'd be nothing short of tickled.
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clockwork
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posted 12 August 2003 05:23 PM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I call dibs on the third trough sixth levels of Hell.
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DrConway
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posted 12 August 2003 07:31 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Color me volunteered for BC/AB/SK
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lagatta
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posted 12 August 2003 07:56 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I can do Europe, old and new, from a class-struggle Felicentric perspective.
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'lance
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posted 12 August 2003 08:01 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And I'd be happy to report on the city of Brisbane, the town of Cleveland, Noosa Head, and North Stradbroke Island, Queensland, Australia.

Particularly during surfing season.

[ 12 August 2003: Message edited by: 'lance ]


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