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Frustrated Mess
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posted 23 February 2007 11:22 AM      Profile for Frustrated Mess   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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A chill has just gone through the collective spine of the bloggers of the Middle East. On Thursday, Egypt sentenced Abdel Kareem Suleiman (a.k.a. "Kareem Amer" online) to four years in prison — three years for blog posts that insulted Islam and one year for similar writings that defamed President Hosni Mubarak. While bloggers have been harrassed and a couple arrested by Mideast governments in the past, this is the first time one has been sentenced to prison. Before Kareem's arrest and conviction, internet writing was considered a safe and open venue for many young men and women in the region, a vehicle to freely express their opinions, doubts and misgivings about thorny issues in their tightly controlled societies.

Maybe they will render him to Washington to be tortured


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Khimia
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posted 23 February 2007 03:04 PM      Profile for Khimia     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Egypt sentenced Abdel Kareem Suleiman (a.k.a. "Kareem Amer" online) to four years in prison — three years for blog posts that insulted Islam and one year for similar writings that defamed President Hosni Mubarak.
Thank God we live in a nation where we are free to insult religion and our politicians without fear of state reprisal.

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posted 23 February 2007 03:32 PM      Profile for Frustrated Mess   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
God has nothing to do with it. People who forced the signing of the Magna Carta, recently repealed by Egyptian ally and God nut, George W. Bush, did.
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Khimia
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posted 23 February 2007 03:50 PM      Profile for Khimia     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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God has nothing to do with it. People who forced the signing of the Magna Carta, recently repealed by Egyptian ally and God nut, George W. Bush, did.
Just when did George Bush repeal the Magna Carta? Has The Queen been informed?

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posted 23 February 2007 05:09 PM      Profile for Frustrated Mess   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You really ought to invest in a newspaper once in a while. You might learn something beyond your own personal ignorances:

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The oldest human right defined in the history of English-speaking civilization is the right to challenge governmental power of arrest and detention through the use of habeas corpus laws. Habeas corpus is roughly Latin for "hold the body," and is used in law to mean that a government must either charge a person with a crime and allow them due process, or let them go free.

Last autumn the House and Senate passed, and the President signed into law, The United States Military Commissions Act of 2006, which explicitly strips both aliens and Americans of the right of habeas corpus, the right of recourse to the courts (as provided in the Fifth through Eighth Amendments to the Constitution), and denies appeal through mechanisms of the Geneva Conventions to those designated to lose these rights by the President.



You will recall that the Magna Carta offered the first protections against arrest without charge and imprisonment without trial

Newspapers are usually about a buck.


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Khimia
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posted 23 February 2007 06:21 PM      Profile for Khimia     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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You really ought to invest in a newspaper once in a while. You might learn something beyond your own personal ignorances:
Oh please and you are one to talk, the Magna Carta is specifically an English charter. Your reference was wholly inaccurate, though that does not surprise me.

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posted 23 February 2007 06:35 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The law of the United States was originally based on English law, as was the law of Canada. It's because we were all British colonies, once upon a time. And so Magna Carta is part of our legal tradition.

In fact, there are two sections of Magna Carta that have been specifically enacted in Ontario law, by way of preserving habeas corpus and other rights, and they are still in force today.


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Khimia
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posted 23 February 2007 06:42 PM      Profile for Khimia     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No disputing the Magna Carta's influence on North American legal tradition.
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posted 23 February 2007 07:02 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So, how's your whiplash doing?
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