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Topic: Dissedents or Wolves in Sheep's Clothing?
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Blue Collar
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Babbler # 8349
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posted 08 March 2005 09:35 PM
Today I was doing some research on walmart for a discussion on the unionization in a right wing forum, when I stumble across a corporate friendly site where one was able to sign up to recieve inside information on problems locals were having and organizing drives being conducted.You can not believe how piss'd I am that some in the labour movement are selling out the masses to the corporate pigs just because they have a beef. I have a chance to see a few dissendent web sites and I appalled to read people who are already union members out of bitterness tell others not to unionize either with a particular union or in general. Here it is we have the corporations banding together offering courses in preventing unions, providing information to stop union drives all or in part supplied by union members. Organizing drives very often are done in secret so if information gets out it is either a potential member or someone on the inside. I hate union corruption and yes it needs to be routed out but playing into the hands of those who would enslave us given the chance is just plain wrong. I am not saying do not talk about that which troubles you about the labour movement but when it becomes your quest to try and hurt the solidarity of the labour movement do us all a favour go work in a non union minimum wage shop to remember how bad it really can be without a union even it has a few bad apples for the present.
From: Ontario | Registered: Feb 2005
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Jumble
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Babbler # 7453
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posted 08 March 2005 10:28 PM
There are people who like to reap the benefits that a union brings them while badmouthing their union at the same time. These are the people who show up at a strike and sit on their a** (they can't muster the energy to stand or walk around with a picket sign) for the minimum number of hours required to qualify for strike pay. They eat, they drink, they smoke, they chat, and then they get up and leave at the end of their "shift". Before a strike vote or a contract vote, they send around e-mails spreading falsehoods about how the the union is organizing or counting the votes. They also say incredibly dumb things like: "Instead of paying unions dues, we could have an equal amount of money deducted from our paychecks, which would be put into a fund, and then, at the end of the year, the money in the fund would be used to give us a salary increase!" I'm not making this up. This was actually said to me by a co-worker. I stared at her for a moment in total dismay. She was so proud of herself, it left me speechless. Her "let's screw ourselves" mentality is exactly the kind of attitude that Wal-Mart looks for in its employees. An ex-Human Resources assistant told a reporter on the Québec T.V. station TQS that she was told to hire people who weren't too intelligent, preferably single mothers on welfare, since a lower-wage salary offering them more money than what they got on welfare would make them want to keep their jobs and make them more compliant in order to do so. Sometimes, it's so disheartening. [ 08 March 2005: Message edited by: Jumble ]
From: Gatineau (Québec) | Registered: Nov 2004
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skdadl
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Babbler # 478
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posted 13 March 2005 01:07 PM
But that is a bitter smile too, N.R. Kissed. I think it's true that there has been a massive collapse in understanding of the meaning of solidarity and how much it meant for all workers, unionized or not, over the last century. Even for those of us who have been assuming the importance of labour solidarity for years, that collapse in general social understanding has come as a surprise, I think. It isn't just the unions who have to begin to react to that collapse. The left in general has got to recognize that we have lost touch with most people, and we are not getting through the competing propaganda at the moment. Or maybe there is nothing we can do. Maybe people really have to touch bottom to grasp how important solidarity was for us all for so long.
From: gone | Registered: May 2001
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