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lagatta
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posted 08 July 2004 10:57 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The AMIA bombing in Buenos Aires on 18 July 1994 was the largest single act of anti-Jewish violence since the Second World War. Much evidence went missing, and a great many Argentineans are convinced that the cover-up goes very high up, as may well government, army or police involvement. http://www.col.fr/breve-977.html
www.amiajustice.org

I suppose the fact that a friend of mine in that city witnessed the aftermath of this attack contributes to my interest in it.

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Willowdale Wizard
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posted 08 July 2004 05:50 PM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
i'm reading a very interesting book on iran and its nuclear ambitions and the US response to iran since the islamic revolution. it makes the point that the iranian revolutionary guard was tied into the bombing of the community centre, through hezbollah, since they thought it was an operating post for mossad.

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josh
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posted 08 July 2004 06:25 PM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank you Lagatta for the thread. This particularly strikes home for me since my children have participated in many events at a local Jewish Community Center. Those members of the Iranian government, and any corresponding Argentines, who were responsible need to be brought to justice, and punished appropriately for this act of terrorism.

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lagatta
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posted 08 July 2004 08:05 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You are welcome, josh. I sent this to jeff house, of course, but as we know he is rather busy these days with his refugee case! I know several people who were affected by this event in Buenos Aires. It was right in the centre of the city, and although on a smaller scale, was as shocking to Porteņos as the WTC was to New Yorkers. The folks in Buenos Aires are concerned with the Iranian and Hezbollah connection, to be sure, but even more with the complicity of their own police forces, military, and quite likely higher-ups in the Argentine government. At the very least they did not treat this grave event with the diligence it deserved. To add insult and injury, Argentine government officials conveyed their condoleances ... to the staff at the Israeli embassy!

The people killed were Argentineans, and the AMIA was unrelated to Israel, except in the eyes of anti-semites.

AMIA served as a community centre of the type your children go to, but also as an invaluable repository of historical records, as it was a mutual society founded over 100 years ago, so it was a mine of information for the study of Jewish immigration and cultural history in Argentina. There was also a library of Yiddish books - a branch of WIZO - think there is another in NYC.

I'll post more information when I come across it - there will no doubt be several articles (in Spanish, of course) in Buenos Aires papers. There was quite an in-depth article a while back in the NYTimes - I wouldn't be surprised if the journalist returns to this event on the 10th anniversary.


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posted 08 July 2004 09:04 PM      Profile for Macabee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
AMIA was all you say Lagatta but for many Argentinian Jews there was an Israeli connection. As I recall many Israeli cultural events did take place there.
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lagatta
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posted 08 July 2004 09:47 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm sorry, Macabee - perhaps I expressed myself inaccurately. I mean AMIA was in no way a foreign delegation of the Israeli government or a paragovernmental agency. Of course there were Israeli events there - and no doubt events from Jewish cultures elsewhere in the world - New York, Paris, the homelands in Eastern and Central Europe and the Mediterranean ... I wasn't referring to the ties that bind Jews on different continents.
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posted 08 July 2004 09:54 PM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Macabee:
AMIA was all you say Lagatta but for many Argentinian Jews there was an Israeli connection. As I recall many Israeli cultural events did take place there.

In most Jewish Community Centers around the world there is an "Israeli connection," as you phrase it, to one degree or another. Some merely take the form of "Israeli days." I'm sure you are well aware of this fact. Which makes your observation somewhat gratuitous.


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posted 08 July 2004 10:06 PM      Profile for Macabee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Josh I was only trying to correct what I thought was a misunderstanding. Lagatta clarified herself nicely. You on the other hand had to jump all over me. Chill out.
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lagatta
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posted 08 July 2004 10:06 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
All: I re-read my post, and don't find the words Israeli connection. I do see Iranian, Hezbollah connection (as a lead in the case). Specifically meaning ties in a kind of plot (ā la "French Connection"). Not referring to the wealth of Semitic populations, be they Jewish or Arab, in Argentina. (Pardon me if I am ignorant about the size of the Persian/Iranian population - but it is not mentioned in all studies on immigration to Argentina as Jews and Arabs are).

Of course AMIA hosted Israel Days - and many other Jewish cultural events. My friend in Bs. As., whose parents fled the Warsaw Ghetto, studied Hebrew as a lad. His parents were utterly irreligious, but I think at the time (my friend is exactly my age, so this was in the late 1950s - early 1960s) learning Hebrew was an important expression of Jewish pride in survival.

I have another close friend from Buenos Aires, who know lives in France. He is of non-Jewish Italian descent, but grew up in one of the two historic Jewish neighbourhoods (Once and Villa Crespo) in Bs. As. His sister and brother-in-law have a small shop near the former AMIA. For weeks after, they had to remove shards - sometimes caked in blood - from the explosion.

But remember, a big part of the outrage about this atrocity is not only that it occurred, but the inaction, cover-up and general attitude of the authorities.


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posted 13 July 2004 07:17 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here is a presentation of ten shorts (in Spanish, of course) about the AMIA bombing and its aftermath, by ten Argentinean directors: http://www.comohacercine.com/articulo.php?id_art=670&id_cat=1
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posted 13 July 2004 09:07 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey Lagatta, I did get your alert for this topic. And it deserves remembrance. As I recall, an Iranian official has now admitted that Argentine ex-President Menem received a ten-million dollar bribe from Iran in exchange for
subverting the investigation of the bombing.

Normally, I'd say he "alleged it". But as I recall, he provided the number of the Bank account in Switzerland to which the $ was sent, and the day it was sent there.

Then Switzerland admitted that the registered owner of that account was Menem.


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posted 13 July 2004 09:28 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well Jeff, I know you have been very busy with the Hinzman case. Hope that is going well. There is a spot of good news - the current Argentinean president, Kirschner, is taking the AMIA case much more seriously and has declared 18 July a National Day of Mourning.
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