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Originally posted by jrootham:
Probably, Malcolm in some respects behaves even worse than you do. He does it at a lower frequency on Babble, though.

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Well, how does one qualify "sneering" I mean in the sense that one can identify it and then create policy around a definition?

Would you say that this statment qualifies as sneering:

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"What part of "by any means necessary" do you not understand?"

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How about this one... does this qualify as sneering:

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Also, why do some people seem to take umbrage at what appears to be sneering when directed at things that they like and support, but then remain dead silent when used in support of what they don't like, or even do it themselves?

Doesn't that come across as a kind of double standard?

Originally posted by jrootham:

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Probably, Malcolm in some respects behaves even worse than you do. He does it at a lower frequency on Babble, though.

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We'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are not being deliberately dense.

One off sneers in a thread are noticeable, but a dime a dozen around here.

You probably don't start out sneering, and may not even get to that point for a while.

Case in point, was when Michelle called you on the sneering in the thread started by Brian Topp thanking people, or probably in the follow thread that opens with an attack on you.

It is a vast understatement to say that calling you on the sneering was late in the game. Because that was a point you've been making for over two weeks in I'm sure at least a hundred posts. And that's just your posts- hundreds of posts written by you or directly in answer to you. And discussion ending in every case.

I responded to the content of your point when it started- right after the election. But when it was clear this was going to be one of your yapping pooddle routines, I dropped out of that.

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I've even made one of my yapping poddle comments, or something like it, when I agree with the point you are making. Thats because I'd like to hear the discussion and see where it will go- or could go if it wasn't for your incessant racket

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I don't think so! It's not my job to be a constitutional lawyer or judge. It's my job to moderate the boards and try to keep the tone civil when things get heated. That doesn't include codifying every nuance and tone.

There is more to moderating than simply stepping in, copy of babble policy in hand, and read out the charges and giving warnings and suspensions. I would much rather attempt to mediate between people who are upset with each other or intervene in arguments before they get ugly than to always come along with a stick. I'd rather remind folks to keep it civil - it's much more constructive than the punishment spectacles some of us seem to be craving whenever they think a fellow babbler has stepped out of line.

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Sneezing - Forcible explusion of air and associated damp materials from the mouth and nose in an explosive, spasmodic involuntary action.

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Of course it should bloody well be banned.

On some boards, there are "thunderdomes" or "flame bases".

Usually "flame bases" are no-swearing insult zones.

"Thunderdomes" are no-holds barred zones, including off-topic messages.

The moderators move the posts over there and let at 'em.

This cuts down insensitive, off topic, sarcastic and snarly posts in regular forums while leaving a space for the sort of Rush Limbaugh vs. Keith Olbermann punditry.

For the sensitive--they ignore the forum completely.

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Originally posted by TVParkdale:
"Thunderdomes" are no-holds barred zones, including off-topic messages. The moderators move the posts over there and let at 'em.

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Originally posted by Slumberjack:

But then we mustn’t discount the entertainment value for those who don’t have to deal with it, in never knowing when or where the next drama will surface.

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Perhaps this "smiley" should be removed from the future incarnation of Babble?

[ 02 November 2008: Message edited by: Cueball ]

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Originally posted by Cueball:
Well, if its any indication of where the board is at, I find it most revealing that the board has a "smiley" that's only function is sneering:

Perhaps this "smiley" should be removed from the future incarnation of Babble?

[ 02 November 2008: Message edited by: Cueball ]

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Yeah, but what about eyerolling at say, an idea or news clipping or whatever.

[ 02 November 2008: Message edited by: Bookish Agrarian ]

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Originally posted by Cueball:
I am not sure that such a tool should be in the hands of the community, having it makes it look like the board sanctions its use.

Perhaps they can come up with some kind of Java script caution warning people about its use?

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WARNING:

The following html is a sneering smiley. Please be accurate in your post as to who, or what is the object of your sneer so that there are no misunderstandings from those who may not be the target of your intended sneer.

Thank you for your patronage.

[ 02 November 2008: Message edited by: TVParkdale ]

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Originally posted by KenS:
The sheep I sheared didn't come out looking like that.

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Now I get it.

[ 03 November 2008: Message edited by: Cueball ]

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Originally posted by jrootham:
I've been pretty upfront about objecting loudly to Malcolm for a long time..

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Object to me all you want.

Rather like when you referred to me as a "piece of shit" on another list and were not subject to moderation.

Hypocrite still strikes me as the right word.

[ 02 November 2008: Message edited by: Malcolm ]

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Originally posted by Malcolm:

Object to me all you want.

Rather like when you referred to me as a "piece of shit" on another list and were not subject to moderation.

Hypocrite still strikes me as the right word.

[ 02 November 2008: Message edited by: Malcolm ]

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Originally posted by Malcolm:

Object to me all you want.

Rather like when you referred to me as a "piece of shit" on another list and were not subject to moderation.

Hypocrite still strikes me as the right word.

[ 02 November 2008: Message edited by: Malcolm ]

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Originally posted by bagkitty:
There is really only one practical solution... it involves a locked room, foam rubber baseball bats, and a lot of friction burns.

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Originally posted by Fidel:

How bout a good fitting jacket, a coupla guys built like bathtubs, and a rubber truck?

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Making psychiatric jokes again Fidel? How "progressive". Good to know where you really stand.

[ 03 November 2008: Message edited by: Cueball ]

My thinking is this thread is not going anywhere, and I'm going to close it as the nastiness has been unabated despite various attempts at levity.