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A_J
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posted 16 October 2008 12:42 PM      Profile for A_J     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post

Scott Andrews - Avalon


Siobhan Coady - St. John's South-Mount Pearl


Bonnie Crombie - Mississauga-Streetsville


Kirsty Duncan - Etobicoke North


Judy Foote - Random-Burin-St. George's


Marc Garneau - Westmount-Ville-Marie


Andrew Kania - Brampton West


Gerard Kennedy - Parkdale-High Park


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A_J
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posted 16 October 2008 12:43 PM      Profile for A_J     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post

Rob Oliphant - Don Valley West


Michelle Simson - Scarborough Southwest


Justin Trudeau - Papineau


Frank Valeriote - Guelph


Lise Zarac - LaSalle-Émard


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It's Me D
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posted 16 October 2008 12:49 PM      Profile for It's Me D     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Have the Liberals elected Conan O'Brien in Brampton West? I thought I'd have heard about that!


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Doug
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posted 16 October 2008 02:31 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Oh good, I was worried I'd miss Faux-Progressive Quarterly.

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The only one of these that I even remotely expect to see anything really positive from is Oliphant, since he's a gay United Church minister with a half-decent record of social justice work.

Though I do realize that I'm likely to be disappointed...after all, he's a Liberal!


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posted 16 October 2008 04:07 PM      Profile for largeheartedboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
The Liberals could have done a lot worse than Frank Valeriote in Guelph. From a brief meeting with him and intelligence from my sources in Guelph, I think he's fundamentally a decent guy. Also, as he repeatedly talked about the need for progressive voters to stop Harper's agenda, I think he also might be open to becoming another rare Liberal MP that supports PR.
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Politics101
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posted 16 October 2008 04:32 PM      Profile for Politics101   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
If I count this right from the photos posted here the Liberals have 6 women out of the 13 newly elected and the NDP got 4 women out of there 12 newly elected.

Anyone got any stats on how many of the news Cons and Bloc are female.


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A_J
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posted 16 October 2008 08:48 PM      Profile for A_J     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Politics101:
If I count this right from the photos posted here the Liberals have 6 women out of the 13 newly elected and the NDP got 4 women out of there 12 newly elected.

Anyone got any stats on how many of the news Cons and Bloc are female.



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adma
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posted 17 October 2008 01:09 AM      Profile for adma     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Politics101:
Anyone got any stats on how many of the news Cons and Bloc are female.

You can't tell unless you unzip their pants, or unless you verify any J. Edgar Hoover tendencies, I suppose


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Politics101
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posted 17 October 2008 07:42 AM      Profile for Politics101   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
Thanks AJ - I found the answer in that thread after I posted the question here.
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posted 17 October 2008 09:29 AM      Profile for montrealais   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by adma:

You can't tell unless you unzip their pants, or unless you verify any J. Edgar Hoover tendencies, I suppose


That was completely unnecessary and I think rather insulting to many of us.


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A political
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posted 17 October 2008 11:37 AM      Profile for A political     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by adma:

You can't tell unless you unzip their pants, or unless you verify any J. Edgar Hoover tendencies, I suppose


I am quite often disappointed by those of you on the left. You talk a good game, but you are less progressive then those on the right!


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It's Me D
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posted 17 October 2008 11:52 AM      Profile for It's Me D     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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You talk a good game, but you are less progressive then those on the right!

1) this is an online forum, all that happens here is talk.

2) what about adma being flippant makes the left un-progressive???

3) even if adma's comment was enough to somehow throw the left's claim to "progressiveness" out the window; why does that make the right more progressive???

I've obviously missed something!

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remind
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posted 17 October 2008 12:19 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Who said adma was even progressive let alone on the left? And i object to his post as a matter of fact.
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posted 17 October 2008 12:35 PM      Profile for Mojoroad1     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
13 new Liberal MPs

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posted 17 October 2008 12:44 PM      Profile for Mojoroad1     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
and finally:


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Politics101
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posted 17 October 2008 12:45 PM      Profile for Politics101   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
Cute !!
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A_J
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posted 17 October 2008 01:25 PM      Profile for A_J     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Mojoroad1:


Homer - "Which one's the mouse?"
Bart - "Itchy"
Homer - "Itchy's a jerk"


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remind
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posted 17 October 2008 01:40 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
You have to put the missing 3 into another post. no more than 4 per post apparently.
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Mojoroad1
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posted 17 October 2008 02:26 PM      Profile for Mojoroad1     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
funny said 8 before....they all showed when i last looked at it.
....

I'll work on the cons next (don't worry no need to do 32 of them)


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The Liberal Party uses an open-list PR system to elect their leader.

Each riding chooses 12 delegates, who must vote for the leadership candidate they were pledged to at the Delegate Selection Meeting. If 8% of the membership in that riding vote for Ruby Dhalla, she gets one delegate. If several people stood for delegate as Dhalla supporters, the one who got the most personal votes is her delegate from that riding.

Just like any PR open-list system.

Now, in the recent election the Liberals elected only six MPs from Ontario outside the GTA, while the NDP elected 15. Hmm, the Liberals need PR even worse than the NDP does. And they already use it.

If it's good enough for Liberals, isn't it good enough for all of us?

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14th new Liberal MP:

Alexandra Mendès

A native of Portugal, Ms. Mendes worked for la Maison Internationale de la Rive-Sud for 15 year, where she worked her way up to serve as the director general from 1996 to 2001. From 2001 to 2006, Ms. Mendes has been an associate in the riding office of former federal cabinet minister and Member of Parliament, the Honourable Jacques Saada. She is currently a teacher at the Brossard Portuguese school, and is a member of the board of directors for the Rive-Sud Portuguese Association.

She won the judicial recount by 69 votes.

One box had been added to the total twice, while another had been omitted.

She is the first Portuguese woman elected an a Canadian MP, although only Portugal has been told this yet.

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7 out of 14 are women. Good for the Libs.


+ Justin Trudeau and Marc Garneau. Quite a strong team.

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quote:
Originally posted by Maxx:
7 out of 14 are women. + Justin Trudeau and Marc Garneau. Quite a strong team.

From the GTA, Montreal and Newfoundland, yes.

In the other 80% of Canada, the Liberals elected no new MPs, and lost a number of strong MPs (Robert Thibault who did such a good job on Mulroney/Schreiber; Karen Redman; Sue Barnes; Raymond Simard; Raymond Chan; Roger Valley; Charles Hubbard; Paul Zed; Andrew Telegdi; Diane Marleau; John Maloney; Tina Keeper; Don Bell; Ken Boshcoff; and a few lesser known, plus a few in the GTA like Garth Turner, Bonnie Brown and Susan Kadis.

And in Ontario outside the GTA, Quebec off Montreal island, all of the West, and even in New Brunswick, Liberal voters elected fewer MPs that their share of the vote justified.

As noted above, Liberals now need PR. Some have noticed. Others will figure it out soon, as they start voting for leader in a PR election.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wilf Day:

From the GTA, Montreal and Newfoundland, yes.

In the other 80% of Canada, the Liberals elected no new MPs, and lost a number of strong MPs (Robert Thibault who did such a good job on Mulroney/Schreiber; Karen Redman; Sue Barnes; Raymond Simard; Raymond Chan; Roger Valley; Charles Hubbard; Paul Zed; Andrew Telegdi; Diane Marleau; John Maloney; Tina Keeper; Don Bell; Ken Boshcoff; and a few lesser known, plus a few in the GTA like Garth Turner, Bonnie Brown and Susan Kadis.


I wouldn't call any of these "strong MPs".


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quote:
Originally posted by Mojoroad1:
and finally:


But that one is orange! Is it Bob Rae, or Pat Martin?


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TCD
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14 new MPs who support slashing corporate tax rates, drawing out the war in Afghanistan, no-strings-attached bailouts for the banks, and voting with Harper.

Hmm.


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posted 26 October 2008 07:48 PM      Profile for BetterRed     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by genstrike:

But that one is orange! Is it Bob Rae, or Pat Martin?


Hmm,before that I was gonna say The Big U Dosanjh,
Since Garfield doesnt quite look like Rae, Plus he has those round rims around the eyes like Mr. U's glasses.

But shouldnt he be wearing a red collar???


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quote:
Originally posted by ghoris:

I wouldn't call any of these "strong MPs".


Actually, Bonnie Brown was pretty good. She was quite anti-war.


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