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bohajal
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posted 30 March 2007 08:11 AM      Profile for bohajal   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
http://tinyurl.com/26b638

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OTTAWA, March 29 PRNewswire — The second phase of a national notification programme has begun, on behalf of Courts across Canada, to alert former students of the Indian residential school system and their families that they must decide whether to stay in the settlement or remove themselves (opt out) from it by August 20, 2007. Notices will be distributed, published, mailed, and broadcast throughout Canada, describing the settlement benefits and how to get them for those who stay in, and explaining what it means to opt out and how to opt out.


...The opt out period formally began immediately following a Court hearing on March 22, 2007, and notices were placed on the Court website

http://www.residentialschoolsettlement.ca.

Community outreach coordinators will begin informing former students across Canada, and phone calls will be placed to those who previously came forward.



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Michelle
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posted 30 March 2007 09:06 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I take it that it's in the best interests of the government and the churches if people opt in?
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bohajal
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posted 30 March 2007 02:34 PM      Profile for bohajal   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Settlements are always in favour of the powerful.

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Fidel
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posted 31 March 2007 01:14 AM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
MP blasted for refusing apology for native school abuses

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NDP aboriginal affairs critic Jean Crowder accused the Conservatives of shunting aside aboriginals, a political non-entity when it comes to Tory voter support.

"There is no action to close the poverty gap for First Nations, the clawback of money to promote and protect Indigenous languages, no movement on self-government negotiations and now the Conservatives refuse to recognize the wrong-headed, damaging policies of past governments."

Prentice blasted back with his oft-used reference to a Liberal ``legacy of 13 years of broken promises" that he says did little to help aboriginal people.


Our two old line political parties have been directly responsible for Canadian apartheid since John A McDonald haunted the halls of power in Ottawa.

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Michelle
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posted 31 March 2007 03:22 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I hope enough people opt out to sue those churches into the ground. I've always felt rather pissed off that the government is bailing the churches out on this one. Hello, churches whine enough about separation of church and state when they don't want to pay property taxes. But when it comes to the government bailing them out over this? Oh, they're just fine to cozy right up, aren't they.

Bankrupt the churches involved! Especially since at least one of them still advocates the persecution of other marginalized groups - namely gays and women, and therefore have obviously NOT learned their lesson. No protection!

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N.Beltov
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posted 31 March 2007 04:02 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Michelle: I hope enough people opt out to sue those churches into the ground. I've always felt rather pissed off that the government is bailing the churches out on this one.

Those churches functioned as arms of the state, carrying out the official policy of trying to annihilate aboriginal culture, languages, etc., and assimilating aboriginal people into the larger society. They were carrying out orders and getting paid for it as well. Why shouldn't government bail them out for services rendered [to government]?

It's not just the churches that carried out these policies that should be sued into the ground. The governments that paid them, Liberal and Conservative alike, should be permanently driven from office. But it's useful to see the links that still exist between these institutions.


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Michelle
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posted 31 March 2007 06:30 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Did the government order them to beat and rape the children in their care? Or did the priests and teachers think that up all by themselves, carry it out, and their churches cover it up and protect them?

The government is DEFINITELY culpable. And they're paying (although they should be paying way more). The churches should have to as well.


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N.Beltov
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posted 31 March 2007 06:50 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What's astonishing, given the history, is how successful the evangelical and other churches are in obtaining converts among aboriginal people, especially in the far North. THIS MAGAZINE had a piece on the subject in the last couple of years.
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sknguy
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posted 03 April 2007 10:37 AM      Profile for sknguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Spiritual disposition of the culture certainly left people vulnerable.

I know as a child I struggled with the notion of burning in hell for being who I was?


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saga
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posted 04 April 2007 06:13 PM      Profile for saga   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Michelle,
I am posting Kevin Annett's documentary in National. Same rationale as before: Indigenous people know this stuff, they lived it, and may choose not to watch. It is Canadians who need to know.

There was much more to the schools than physical and sexual assault, and yet official 'Canada' will not even apologize for that. I think it is up to us now.


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bohajal
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posted 04 April 2007 06:58 PM      Profile for bohajal   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
[QUOTE}The government is DEFINITELY culpable. And they're paying (although they should be paying way more). The churches should have to as well. -Michelle[/QUOTE]

The government must be sued separately from the church.

What I mean the only event when the government must bail out the Church is after the latter has been found with not enough money to compensate and had declared bankrupcy.

Thus, the government must pay for its responsibility as IT has contracted the Church. The Church must face the music of its deeds even if it leads to its bankrupcy.


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saga
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posted 04 April 2007 09:49 PM      Profile for saga   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The money is just a red herring.

How do we stop the genocide is the question ...

Health Canada muzzles oil sands whistleblower

sorry, i don't know how to link to my other post ... I just get an 'image'.

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