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brebis noire
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posted 02 May 2005 09:31 AM      Profile for brebis noire     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I readthis column by Bob Herbert this morning and now I've got this awful feeling (déjà vu...)
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Anchoress
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posted 02 May 2005 09:42 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Mr. Delgado confronted a sergeant who, he said, had fired on the detainees. "I asked him," said Mr. Delgado, "if he was proud that he had shot unarmed men behind barbed wire for throwing stones. He didn't get mad at all. He was, like, 'Well, I saw them bloody my buddy's nose, so I knelt down. I said a prayer. I stood up, and I shot them down.' "

"Dear God. Thank you for making me American, so I can be the one with the gun doing Your will. Please forgive the Heathen I am about to massacre for not accepting you as his personal saviour before I kill him. Oh, and please forgive me for the mortal sin I am about to commit. Thy Will Be Done, etc etc etc..."


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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 02 May 2005 09:52 AM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Nothing new here, and no, I'm not proud to say that at all. Remember that scene early in the movie "Three Kings" about the first Gulf War? The ones where the officers debated what was the proper slur to call the Iraqis?

America is so steeped in racism and it has found its way into pretty much every war we've fought. Check out the little songs the troops used to sing about the Filipinos during the insurrection. Its used as a troop motivator.

'cause after all, you can't generally get away with that sort of stuff stateside.

That last paragraph is one of the most sickening things I've ever read in any newspaper.

I don't know what to say anymore. I really don't. After awhile trying to apologize to the world for the atrocities my country is committing in my name seem to ring rather hollow. There's just so many of them.

I wrote about a similar subject in my blog yesterday. Sanctify Yourself


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paxamillion
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posted 02 May 2005 10:09 AM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Américain Égalitaire:
That last paragraph is one of the most sickening things I've ever read in any newspaper.

Certainly right up there for me, too. It embarasses me to be a Christian when I read about such horrific acts.


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Boom Boom
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posted 03 May 2005 07:24 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"Mr. Delgado confronted a sergeant who, he said, had fired on the detainees. "I asked him," said Mr. Delgado, "if he was proud that he had shot unarmed men behind barbed wire for throwing stones. He didn't get mad at all. He was, like, 'Well, I saw them bloody my buddy's nose, so I knelt down. I said a prayer. I stood up, and I shot them down.' "

Jesus Christ!


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al-Qa'bong
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posted 04 May 2005 12:48 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This sounds a lot like an item in the current Harper's. It's a radio transcription among IOF troops near Rafah, in the Gaza Strip.

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SENTRY: We have spotted an Arab female about 100 metres below our emplacement, near the light armoured vehicle gate.

HQ: Observation post "Spain," do you see it?

OBSERVATION POST: Affirmative. It's a young girl. She's now running east.

HQ: What is her position?

OP: She's currently north of the authorised zone.

SENTRY: Very innapropriate location.
[Gunfire]

OP: She's now behind the embankment, 250 metres from the barracks. She keeps running east. The hits are right on her.

HQ: Are you talking about a girl under ten?

OP: Approximately a ten-year-old girl.

HQ: Roger.

OP: OP to HQ.

HQ: Receiving, over.

OP: She's behind the embankment, dying of fear, the hits are right on her, a centimeter from her.

SENTRY: Our troops are storming toward her now. They are around 70 metres from her.

HQ: I understand that the company commander and his squad are out?

SENTRY: Affirmative, with a few more soldiers.

OP: Receive. It looks like one of the positions dropped her.

HQ: What? did you see the hit? Is she down?

OP: She's down. Right now she isn't moving.

COMPANY COMMANDER [to HQ]: Me and another soldier are going in. [To the squad]Forward, to confirm the kill!


CC [to HQ]: We fired and killed her. She has...wearing pants...jeans and a vest, shirt. Also she had a kaffiyeh on her head. I also confirmed the kill. Over.

HQ: Roger.

CC [on general communications band: Any motion, anyone who moves in the zone, even if it's a three-year-old, should be killed. Over.

[ 04 May 2005: Message edited by: al-Qa'bong ]


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Mr. Magoo
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posted 04 May 2005 01:44 AM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
FUBAR.
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ShyViolet
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posted 04 May 2005 02:00 AM      Profile for ShyViolet     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
oh....my... god...

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Hephaestion
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posted 04 May 2005 06:43 AM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by al-Qa'bong:
This sounds a lot like an item in the current Harper's. It's a radio transcription among IOF troops near Rafah, in the Gaza Strip...

Harper's oughtta have Cueball on staff. He posted that same exchange here a couple months ago.


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